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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Like you'd sell oranges on the side of the ****ing road.
    Oh yes thats all illegals do is sell oranges on the side of the ****ing road.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Psh in Boston it is a city holiday. The Irish are everywhere and everything is Irish. The fact we all drink a lot is because the Irish like to drink a lot on St. Pattys Day. But here in Boston it is a celebration of everything Irish instead of the Saint.
    I wonder how long its been celebrated as a drinking holiday
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh yes thats all illegals do is sell oranges on the side of the ****ing road.
    Tell us all about how you're going to get that IT job the illegals stole from you jamesrage? Maybe you flip burgers for a living? What about gardening? Which jobs would you do that illegals do en masse? Maybe you'd house keep for minimum wage? Would you pick fruit all day for minimum wage? If anything illegal immigrants are evidence of the right wing's beloved market taking its course. They do the job people in this country feel like they should be paid more to do.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I wonder how long its been celebrated as a drinking holiday
    I don't know. Maybe it is a big Irish Pride Day here in Boston and where you live it is more of a drinking day. I am not denying that it isn't a big drinking day up here because it most certainly is. But people drink to celebrate their Irishness (sp?). It is the only day where everyone in the city can call themselves Irish whether they really are or not.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Tell us all about how you're going to get that IT job the illegals stole from you jamesrage? Maybe you flip burgers for a living? What about gardening? Which jobs would you do that illegals do en masse? Maybe you'd house keep for minimum wage? Would you pick fruit all day for minimum wage?
    Those jobs would be worth more than minimum wage if illegals were not taking them . Supply and demand also applies to the labor market. Seems kind of funny when people thinks it doesn't.



    If anything illegal immigrants are evidence of the right wing's beloved market taking its course.
    By your logic slavery, under age workers and sweat shops is the evidence of the right wing's beloved market taking course and that we should accept it.

    They do the job people in this country feel like they should be paid more to do.
    Are you saying if someone offered you more money to do the same job that you do now you wouldn't take it or think that you deserved it?
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Those jobs would be worth more than minimum wage if illegals were not taking them. Supply and demand also applies to the labor market. Seems kind of funny when people thinks it doesn't.
    This is simply wishful thinking. Minimum wage jobs are essential to the existence of a society and there is always a segment population ready to take those jobs regardless of how little they pay except of course in America, because here feel their lack of education entitles them to $12 for flipping burgers. Canada which does not have the issue regarding illegal immigration that we do, has a huge block of its population working minimum wage jobs. No. You do not understand that the job market doesn't work the way you think it does.

    By your logic slavery, under age workers and sweat shops is the evidence of the right wing's beloved market taking course and that we should accept it.
    This is why you shouldn't try logic james. Here I'll dissect my 'logic' for you:

    If anything illegal immigrants are evidence of the right wing's beloved market taking its course.
    What did I say? I said illegal immigrants are proof of the market taking its course. There is a population which refuses to flip burgers, cut gardens and sell oranges for minimum wage or less. So another population has taken over the jobs.

    Slavery was the only logical response to a non-existent working force and thus why it was acceptable at the time. Blacks were brought over to do a job which there wasn't a working force to do. Later on they kept coming as whites living in an industrializing society thought they were too good do work in fields. After a while, it no longer became logical to have slavery. Notice how as blacks became an ever shrinking minority, slavery was abolished in more and more states.

    The story hasn't changed. Only now it's not about race. It is about a false sense of entitlement. People in this country feel not having a high school diploma means you should still get paid $12. Welcome to the 21st century. We now hire people with educations. Congratulations in making this about race though. You have successfully managed to Blackwin the thread. What that has to do with acceptance is beyond me. Why don't you learn to logically read a thread before you talk about logic?

    Are you saying if someone offered you more money to do the same job that you do now you wouldn't take it or think that you deserved it?
    No. If somebody offered me more money for a job I actually had to go to school for, I'd take it. If somebody offered me more money for a job where my training could not be finished after 2 weeks, I would take it. I wouldn't demand $15 for flipping burgers or cleaning up somebody's garden.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Never understood why the dregs of the white race tend to be the white "Supremacists"
    Kind of like the black supremacists Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    I don't know. Maybe it is a big Irish Pride Day here in Boston and where you live it is more of a drinking day. I am not denying that it isn't a big drinking day up here because it most certainly is. But people drink to celebrate their Irishness (sp?). It is the only day where everyone in the city can call themselves Irish whether they really are or not.
    I think if 'you' study the history of St Patrick's Day celbrations here in the US is that is was an Irish Pride and identity parade and it started back in a time when there were still signs saying "Irish need not apply". Hense there was an element of protest there also. Let's be serious the Irish were the first large immigrant group after the ENGLISH-SCOTTS-WELCH who came here voluntarily therefore resentment and distrust by the 'real' American and 'true; patriots was high.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Tell us all about how you're going to get that IT job the illegals stole from you jamesrage? Maybe you flip burgers for a living? What about gardening? Which jobs would you do that illegals do en masse? Maybe you'd house keep for minimum wage? Would you pick fruit all day for minimum wage? If anything illegal immigrants are evidence of the right wing's beloved market taking its course. They do the job people in this country feel like they should be paid more to do.
    If you look at the dynamics of the labor market you will find that yes indeed illegals do reduce the wage rate in the lower paying jobs. Yet do be honest so do legal immigrants. As I noted in other posts I am an immigrant but came here when I was about 2. I recall a woman leaving a "church" ( a Baptist type church ) near my home then and I was riding a bike still with training wheels and this was holding a Bible and she started screeming at me t" you PD's come here to take our money and jobs and rents you like YANKEE DOLLORS but you hate Yankees". I remember riding ome and asking my Mom was a DP was ( Displaced PERSON). The hatred for all immigranst has been around for years. My Dad was working as a janitor and goin to night school at that time so I do not think that he took a real reat job away from this BAPTIST Bitch who hated a little kid who was an immigrant who she did not even know. Even to today I do not trust BAPTISTS!!!
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I was under the impression that Saint Patrick's day was celebrated because he brought Catholicism to the pagans(although that seems kind ironic seeing how Catholics are pagans) in Ireland in which the rest of the world now sees as a national drinking holiday, not because of Irish identity.


    Yep, just keep spreading the hate. You sound like the KKK with a line like that...
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