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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Yet you cannot for the third time offer any other reason for him making that statement in the first place.

    Simply claiming thats not what he meant isn't enough.
    "Yea, but that's no excuse to support the racist buttheads from our side. It's a good cause, but we can have a decent protest with saner people."

    He implied none of the things you said. None at all.

    Now for the fourth time, you over reacted to an imagined slight.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You are reading WAY to much into it man. WAY to much.



    Oh no! we should run in fear because it means "the race".

    Dude, they are celebrating the race and culture they come from and legally trying to help each other. Nothing racist about that. So I guess Saint Patric's day is racist for celebrating the Irish.

    Tex your argument on this is out there man.
    Actually, it does not mean that even. It's a common talking point among some, but it's not the accurate name.

    National Council of La Raza: Translation of La Raza

    Many people incorrectly translate our name, “La Raza,” as “the race.” While it is true that one meaning of “raza” in Spanish is indeed “race,” in Spanish, as in English and any other language, words can and do have multiple meanings. As noted in several online dictionaries, “La Raza” means “the people” or “the community.” Translating our name as “the race” is not only inaccurate, it is factually incorrect. “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race. As anyone who has ever met a Dominican American, Mexican American, or Spanish American can attest, Hispanics can be and are members of any and all races.

    The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, as “the Hispanic people of the New World.” The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions. Mistranslating “La Raza” to mean “the race” implies that it is a term meant to exclude others. In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “La Raza Cósmica,” meaning the “cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people. This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Anyone think the Nazi's could be inciting others to riot, and be persecuted as such?
    Not exactly clear what your question is. Are you hooping that the NAZI'S incited a riot or are you saying that they did ? Much grande confused !!
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Illegal Immigration along with Obama becoming president is one of the few issues that make these pieces of human filth somewhat relevant. Its sad.
    The Nazi's ?? The illegals ? Or both ?
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A group of racist Nazi scum being counter protested against by pro-illegal scum.So basically it is a one anti-American(Nazis, seeing how they were our enemies in WWII) group being counter protested by another anti-American group(Pro-illegals seeing how they endorse an unarmed invasion of our country). Maybe next we will see PETA being counter protested by Code Pink or Code Pink being counter protested by Fred Phelps.
    That has the makings of an indie film - PETA vs THE Pink CODED PANTHERS.
    Fred Phelps, well there are bacteria who are more usefull then Fred Phelps.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Whites don't need white supremacists. We're already advantaged by history.
    Well history maybe but in the demographic projections are correct us Whites be the My- Oh- my -nority by rear 2050 I think !!!
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, it does not mean that even. It's a common talking point among some, but it's not the accurate name.

    National Council of La Raza: Translation of La Raza
    That makes sense, thanks!
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    It is too bad that it was the the NAZI White Supremacists group who took up the banner to counter protest the pro-illegals supporters. Illegal immigration is indeed a major pepoblem in our country and is and will continue to undermine the security, economy, govenmental, and social structures of our country unless it is stopped. I would like to think that some administartion soon will take this problem and solve it, or at least try to.

    Reagan did nothing abut it. Bush I did about as much. Monica's Boyfriend would rather have didlled an illegal than throw one out. Shrub I made sounds about it but for practical purposes did about as much as the Intern Diddler did. What will BO POTUS do ??
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post

    Their [La Raza] form of racism is no different than white supremacists.
    Wow... I mean..just wow! The stupidity of that comment is beyond belief.

    Is every member of La Raza a racist? No.
    Backpedal, backpedal... Paraphrasing: The group I just compared to white supremacists may have some good, non-racist members.

    Which begs the question, if La Raza is no different than white supremacists (in your mind) and La Raza may have some non-racist members(in your mind)... Then the Skinheads and neo-nazis must have some non-racists members, too... (per you logic)

    Brilliant, text, just billiant...

    But the message they send is clear. They look out only for their own race and see American borders as an invasion of "their" land.
    Question textmaster: Which treaty negates this position? (don't google it, just answer)

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Has anyone else noticed this. Certain people or groups who are oppsed to illegal immigration are also opposed to legal immigration. Or put in another way certain people who dislike immigrants dislike all immigrants.

    I am technically an immigrant since I came here on that proverbial boat as a 2 year old. I have been a target of anti- immigrant rhetoric but ostly when I hear such rhetoric the self styled "super patriot" doesn't realize that I am an immigrant since I grew up here and do not speak with an accept except a New England Yankee one.

    I do fear that a cross over hatred attack will spill over from illegal immigrants to us legals, and it already has to a degree.
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