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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So we can judge an organization by what any of its members may have said now?
    That's your qualification. You stated La Raza has not endorsed that saying. La Raza is an organization and we know where they stand by what they choose or do not choose to tell the public. So you answered your own question before you asked it. Congrats.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's your qualification. You stated La Raza has not endorsed that saying. La Raza is an organization and we know where they stand by what they choose or do not choose to tell the public. So you answered your own question before you asked it. Congrats.
    The motto that was claimed to be La Raza's is not it's motto. Case closed.

    And this is hilarious: "we know where they stand by what they choose or do not choose to tell the public."

    Did you really actually say that? Did you think first?

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Rev. Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan... Black Supremacists.

    What good for one group of chaotic nutjobs is equally good for the others.

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    You forgot Father Michael Pfleger, Pastor Jeremiah Wright, and Barry Soetoro.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I'd take an illegal immigrant over a White Supremacist any day.
    My preferred choice would be "none of the above".
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    It is too bad that it was the the NAZI White Supremacists group who took up the banner to counter protest the pro-illegals supporters. Illegal immigration is indeed a major pepoblem in our country and is and will continue to undermine the security, economy, govenmental, and social structures of our country unless it is stopped. I would like to think that some administartion soon will take this problem and solve it, or at least try to.

    Reagan did nothing abut it. Bush I did about as much. Monica's Boyfriend would rather have didlled an illegal than throw one out. Shrub I made sounds about it but for practical purposes did about as much as the Intern Diddler did. What will BO POTUS do ??
    Open the borders wide, give citizenship to any that walk across or are already here.

    Then stand back and say he solved our illegal alien problem.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Has anyone else noticed this. Certain people or groups who are oppsed to illegal immigration are also opposed to legal immigration. Or put in another way certain people who dislike immigrants dislike all immigrants.

    I am technically an immigrant since I came here on that proverbial boat as a 2 year old. I have been a target of anti- immigrant rhetoric but ostly when I hear such rhetoric the self styled "super patriot" doesn't realize that I am an immigrant since I grew up here and do not speak with an accept except a New England Yankee one.

    I do fear that a cross over hatred attack will spill over from illegal immigrants to us legals, and it already has to a degree.
    I am vehemently opposed to illegal aliens (they aren't immigrants, as immigrants, by definition, are here legally).

    I am not opposed to immigrants as my wife is an immigrant. She has been here for 18 years. She is a property owner, a tax payer, has a BS in nursing, and is an RN with a job...... and she still has to wait in line to become a citizen whereas Illegal Aliens won't if Barry gets his way.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Never is an absolute - one person claiming to be a member of La Raza may have said it at some point whether publicly of which you may or may not be aware. Hence, what I said stands.
    The claim was not that a member of La Raza said it. The claim was that it was an organizational motto. You understand the difference, right? Or don't you?

    Ok. No one's comparing or making a claim one is the other.
    It seems clear to me that La Raza has continually been mistaken for MecHa on this thread.
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    And dig our ditches.
    And manage our sewers.
    And clean rich bastards homes.
    And work the agriculture jobs.
    And take your garbage to the dump.
    And paint your house.
    And do your yard work.
    And clean public bathrooms.
    And help people move furniture.
    And do laundry for the hotels.
    And help build our roads.
    And fix holes in our roofs.

    In other words, they do the jobs that Americans don't want to take. You should be saying thank you.
    Got news for you...... all of those are fairly high paying low skill jobs that low skill citizens of this country would love to have, if they weren't taken by illegal aliens working under the table.

    (and don’t tell me illegal aliens don’t work under the table….. I spent 25 years in the construction trades)
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    1. We do NOT pray to saints, we ask them to pray on our behalf, much as we would also ask a friend or fellow parishoner to do the same.
    You keep telling yourself that. It is still praying. Unless the saint is alive and has a telephone there is no way to talk to a saint without praying. And why do you "talk" to a saint? IS it to ask/petition that saint for something much the same way when you pray to God you ask him/petition for something?

    2. When we "venerate" a saint, it is showing heartfelt respect for the example that person shows the faithful and that we should also learn to apply their lessons in our own lives.
    You do pray to saints.Quit living in denial. Do you even have an idea what venerate means? Lets look up a thesaurus to see what venerate is synonymous with.
    Venerate Synonyms | Synonyms of Venerate and Antonyms of Venerate at Thesaurus.com

    Synonyms: admire, adore, apotheosize, appreciate, be in awe of, cherish, deify, esteem, exalt, hallow, hold in awe, honor, idolize, look up to, love, put on a pedestal, regard, respect, reverence, think highly of, treasure, value, worship






    3. As for "most Christians", you should know that there are nearly three times more Catholics than Protestants and then you have Eastern Orthodox in addition to Catholics and even Protestant sects like Anglicans.
    Catholics are not Christians so yours stats are completely flawed. Christians only pray to God and do not keep idols(statues or icons of saints).
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    Re: White Supremacists, Demonstrators square off in L.A.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You keep telling yourself that. It is still praying.
    No, we are telling YOU that because you are the one that is confused.

    Unless the saint is alive and has a telephone there is no way to talk to a saint without praying. And why do you "talk" to a saint? IS it to ask/petition that saint for something much the same way when you pray to God you ask him/petition for something?
    No, it is communion with the saints...fellowship as a form of veneration. communo sanctorum. Look it up.

    You do pray to saints.
    No we do not and no matter how many times you mindlessly repeat your talking point, it's not going to make it true.

    Quit living in denial. Do you even have an idea what venerate means?
    Much more of an idea than you seem to have.

    Lets look up a thesaurus to see what venerate is synonymous with.
    Venerate Synonyms | Synonyms of Venerate and Antonyms of Venerate at Thesaurus.com

    Synonyms: admire, adore, apotheosize, appreciate, be in awe of, cherish, deify, esteem, exalt, hallow, hold in awe, honor, idolize, look up to, love, put on a pedestal, regard, respect, reverence, think highly of, treasure, value, worship
    OK, and your point? Those are synonyms but they are no equivalent definitions in all cases.






    Catholics are not Christians
    Yes we are. Every source other than you (and possibly whatever dip**** preacher you've been listening to on the 700 Club at 4AM) lists Catholics as Christians. Because we are Christians. I don't care what some backwater swamp-snake handling evangelical has been telling you. Catholics are Christians.

    so yours stats are completely flawed.
    Says the guy who doesn't understand the words "pagan" or "Christians".

    Christians only pray to God and do not keep idols(statues or icons of saints).
    By your interpretation, if you keep a picture of your mother, you are breaking the Exodus scripture. Thank God your interpretation is just a ****ed up pile of horse****. Christians know to give praise to God for even the smallest of favors.

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