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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I know it does nothing because it changes nothing...
    It's already been shown that there are indeed still some hospitals where visitation is barred for gay couples, so yes, it did solve a real problem.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    This sort of thing makes me believe Obama is a good politician.

    Create an imaginary problem, avoid tough questions, and fix imaginary problems; continue avoiding tough questions.

    I'm going to start calling him Ferdinand.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    This sort of thing makes me believe Obama is a good politician.

    Create an imaginary problem, avoid tough questions, and fix imaginary problems; continue avoiding tough questions.

    I'm going to start calling him Ferdinand.
    It's already been shown that there are indeed still some hospitals where visitation is barred for gay couples, so yes, it did solve a real problem.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's already been shown that there are indeed still some hospitals where visitation is barred for gay couples, so yes, it did solve a real problem.
    Yeah, I saw that; wasn't so convinced. My uncle (Authoritarian Left as you can be) has been a doctor for a tad over 40 years. He applauds the decision, but says that the only reason they wouldn't be allowed in the room would be if they were openly gay. If they would, for instance, tell a white lie (like hetero non-married couples do all the time) they would get access.

    But, of course, there was a problem. Ferdinand fixed it. Hoorah. Let's not, well, actually answer any questions.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Yeah, I saw that; wasn't so convinced. My uncle (Authoritarian Left as you can be) has been a doctor for a tad over 40 years. He applauds the decision, but says that the only reason they wouldn't be allowed in the room would be if they were openly gay. If they would, for instance, tell a white lie (like hetero non-married couples do all the time) they would get access.

    But, of course, there was a problem. Ferdinand fixed it. Hoorah. Let's not, well, actually answer any questions.
    Your uncle? That's your source?

    Your uncle is wrong. He is clearly not familiar with the policies of every single hospital in the country.

    I've already posted a news article with an example of a couple that ran into this problem.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't have a problem with this. If someone in the hospital has a gay partner, they should be allowed to visit the sick person. Don't see why this should be a problem. Hail, ANYONE in the hospital should be allowed to pick who gets to visit them, IMO, whether that person is family or not.
    This only becomes a problem in an ICU situation, when the patient is on a vent, and the next of kin of the unconscious, unmarried patient are his/her parents. They disapprove of the patient's boyfriend/girlfriend, and they pull rank. It can affect both heteros and homos alike, actually.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Yeah, I saw that; wasn't so convinced. My uncle (Authoritarian Left as you can be) has been a doctor for a tad over 40 years. He applauds the decision, but says that the only reason they wouldn't be allowed in the room would be if they were openly gay. If they would, for instance, tell a white lie (like hetero non-married couples do all the time) they would get access.

    But, of course, there was a problem. Ferdinand fixed it. Hoorah. Let's not, well, actually answer any questions.
    So it's not a problem since all they have to do is be dishonest. Well, I am sure that is a relief for gays. Just lie and you can be accepted.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So it's not a problem since all they have to do is be dishonest. Well, I am sure that is a relief for gays. Just lie and you can be accepted.
    Please, spare me your melodrama. Since when did you get through the day without a little lie of some kind? The week? The month? And I take it you don't think your part of some oppressed minority.


    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Your uncle? That's your source?

    Your uncle is wrong. He is clearly not familiar with the policies of every single hospital in the country.

    I've already posted a news article with an example of a couple that ran into this problem.
    You have an article, I have an uncle. Anyone would take the testimony of someone who is, well, actually there over some journalist with a dead line.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    This only becomes a problem in an ICU situation, when the patient is on a vent, and the next of kin of the unconscious, unmarried patient are his/her parents. They disapprove of the patient's boyfriend/girlfriend, and they pull rank. It can affect both heteros and homos alike, actually.
    Hm. If I'm not mistaken, you can have a Power of Attorney made up, giving the person of your choice full authority to act for you in the event you are incapacitated. Simple solution?

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Hm. If I'm not mistaken, you can have a Power of Attorney made up, giving the person of your choice full authority to act for you in the event you are incapacitated. Simple solution?
    You are entirely correct. However many younger folk don't think ahead. Many parents disapprove of their adult children's partners, gay or straight. Think Terri Shiavo...

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