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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is about like passing a law that you won't be pulled over for doing 72 mph on a 70 mph highway.

    Obama is grandstanding.
    You'd probably care more if you were barred from seeing someone you loved.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Civil rights refers to race or gender not homosexuality.

    And no it isn't well founded speculation. Its speculation based on your own bias.
    "Civil [and political] rights" are rights which protect individuals. What you fail to understand is that these rights are usually denied to not just one individual but an entire group (like for example blacks, women and homosexuals). "Civil rights" have come into play in cases regarding employment laws, mental illnesses and discrimination against the homeless.

    Your misconception comes in believing that what is known as "The Civil Rights Movement" in America was a regionalized issue owned by America alone. It was a global movement. Peasants in Latin America demanded higher wages and a stop to the discrimination against them. Africans of all races started liberating their countries from European colonialism because of the lack of rights they had.

    No. You're just wrong on this.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Sex and race are genetic. Homosexuality has never been proved to be hereditary in any way shape or form so the association is dishonest to say the least.
    You don't know that. To say so is completely dishonest to say the least.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I don't doubt you. I've heard of this, just never seen it neither has my wife who works in the industry.
    My sister graduated from nursing school in 1984. She has worked in hospitals in Boston, San Antonio, and Virginia Beach. SHe has seen the restriction in all three locations. So it exists, Rev.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Are any of those based on gender alone?
    Sometimes society makes rules based on right and wrong. Go figure...

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sometimes society makes rules based on right and wrong. Go figure...
    And it is wrong to bar homosexual couples from hospital visitation rights as well as medical decisions just like heterosexual couples get.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It describes those who are complaining about the order in this thread to a T.
    Ah...CaptainCourtesy...moderator extraordinaire...the all knowing voice of reason...

    No one is complaining about the executive order and if you werent so stuck on your own need to be right you would see that. This executive order is of itself biased. It doesnt address 'all' poor picked on critters...it only addresses homosexuals. Strike one. It doesnt have much by way of value or import...strike two. And finally...using for example the article posted that illustrated the plight of gay partners...it only addresses conscious and cognizant adult patients in their visitation and consultation rights. It does nothing for people in comas or that are mentally incapacitated...that still requires a legal will...an option that already EXISTS. Strike three.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And it is wrong to bar homosexual couples from hospital visitation rights as well as medical decisions just like heterosexual couples get.
    You are as blinded by "yeah...the president cares about us gay people" as the others here are. This executive order doesn't change a thing. But it made you 'feeeeeel' better. So hurry to the polls!

    An adult patient can already do all these things. An unconscious or comatose patient still cant.

    Huuuu freqin zah! No...seriously...good for you! The president signed an executive order that says you can do what you are already doing...you SHOULD be thrilled. He gets to pretend he cares and he actually has done something...you get to pretend it is a step towards being 'normal'...life is AWESOME!!!

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You are as blinded by "yeah...the president cares about us gay people" as the others here are. This executive order doesn't change a thing. But it made you 'feeeeeel' better. So hurry to the polls!

    An adult patient can already do all these things. An unconscious or comatose patient still cant.

    Huuuu freqin zah! No...seriously...good for you! The president signed an executive order that says you can do what you are already doing...you SHOULD be thrilled. He gets to pretend he cares and he actually has done something...you get to pretend it is a step towards being 'normal'...life is AWESOME!!!

    Wow gays really freak you out.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wow gays really freak you out.
    Wow...logical arguments that you cant fight REALLY freak you out!

    Like I told the good captain...I dont CARE about this executive order, nor do I give two shakes of a tinkers damn about people that happen to be gay. I point out the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS>..that you and yurn just got punked by the pres and you are throwing a party about it...and you cant STAND that.

    Hey...use the 'homophobe' word next...thats the next step in the playbook...right? Cept...uh oh...it doesnt work with me.

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