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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Working as a bag boy is not a binding contract, but then you already know that.
    If I want to be paid it certainly is. You are entering a contract to work for money. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

    A little reading for you:

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    If I want to be paid it certainly is. You are entering a contract to work for money. It doesn't get any simpler than that.
    Look up the legal definition of a binding contract and get back with us when you have a clue. You were employed, that is not a legally binding contract.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It is NOT a legal binding contract. Try again.
    Yes it is. I can sue them for not paying me after I sign and do the work.

    Try again.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Look up the legal definition of a binding contract and get back with us when you have a clue. You were employed, that is not a legally binding contract.
    Then how could I sue if I did the work and they didn't pay me?

    Explain that one
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Yes it is. I can sue them for not paying me after I sign and do the work.

    Try again.
    No, it isn't look up the legal definition. You haven't a clue what you are talking about now.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Then how could I sue if I did the work and they didn't pay me?

    Explain that one
    Because you are covered under Federal and state employees rights, not a contract.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    ...and gays have sexual preference. Sexual preference doesn't need to be identical to race any more than race needed to be identical to gender to still qualify its holders as being denied civil liberties.
    You have to prove it is more than a choice and you cannot.

    Which is completely irrelevant.
    Of course it is. The cornerstone of the civil rights movement was descriminating against people who could not help who they are ie race or gender. Nothing like that exists for homosexuality.

    Would you agree that gays have more protections in the law than they did, say, twenty years ago?
    They have more options yes. That doesn't change the public feeling on gay marriage when put to a vote.

    Again, completely irrelevant to whether homosexuals are or are not in fact denied civil liberties. Homosexuals don't have to prove to you or anyone else that they were born homosexual.
    So any sexual identification can be brought forth under that same criteria. I don't have to explain why I prefer children or marrying multiple people because you've just claimed I don't have to.

    Without moving on to another topic, try to stick to your own logic: why, if genetics and choice are important distinctions for you in this debate, are religious people allowed civil liberties when other people who you claim to have just as much choice are not? You haven't shown at all how they are different, except by moving on to another topic which I have shown is changing (protection of the law).
    Because you cannot relate religion protected under the Constitution and recognized as a choice but protected under the law with homosexuality.

    If you want to claim religion and homosexuality are the same, please explain how.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    God Dammit Navy. Most of "the left" was kinda pissed about that commercial as I remember it. How about not pulling out something some asshole does and try and attribute it to the whole group. You really don't want to go down that road, since there are no shortage of assholes on the right too.

    This whole playing stupid politics games, trying to demonize by association any one you don't agree with is getting really old. Give it a rest and try and talk about, I dunno, the issues themselves...
    There are certain things in life that shall always remain consistant. Sunrises. Sunsets. Summers. Winters. Death. Taxes. Navy Pride.

    Would you believe me if I told you that with a little effort, the ol' salt can become a pretty good guy over time?

    Hell, and Navy be my witness, NP and me used to go at it like him and DD does now. Realizing the inevitable, I took some time to step back and step away from the turmoil and not too long after that, I started liking the old coot.

    Besides, right or wrong, the Chief has spent his life dedicated to the service of our country. So, to me, people like him, and even ol' Murtha, Kerry, can say or do what the hell ever they want to. They deserve it.

    I may disagree with him but I will never disrespect Mr. Pride.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Because you are covered under Federal and state employees rights, not a contract.
    I know this is hard for you but try to follow. If I sign a piece of paper agreeing to work for a wage, that IS a contract.

    A little reading for you:

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-work-contract.htm

    Many types of employment require what is known as a job contract or a work contract. Essentially, a work contract is a document that helps to establish the basic terms of agreement as they relate to the employment of an individual by a company. Job contracts generally contain at least some specific information regarding the responsibilities of the employee, and the types of benefits that are extending by the company in exchange for the services of the employee. Here are some examples of information that is normally found within the text of a work contract.

    Try again
    Last edited by texmaster; 04-16-10 at 07:29 PM.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I know this is hard for you but try to follow. If I sign a piece of paper agreeing to work for a wage, that IS a contract.

    A little reading for you:

    What is a Work Contract?

    Many types of employment require what is known as a job contract or a work contract. Essentially, a work contract is a document that helps to establish the basic terms of agreement as they relate to the employment of an individual by a company. Job contracts generally contain at least some specific information regarding the responsibilities of the employee, and the types of benefits that are extending by the company in exchange for the services of the employee. Here are some examples of information that is normally found within the text of a work contract.

    Try again
    Can you enter a legally binding contract to buy a car on your own at age 16 from a car dealer when you are not emancipated? No, because you can't enter a legally binding contract.

    Can you join the military at age 16 when you are not emancipated? No, you cannot because you cannot enter a legally binding contract.
    You lost, deal with it.

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