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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not at all. He just made it a right for gays to wear flip flops without having to sign a document, something that straights didn't have to do at all. See the difference yet?
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    "The White House on Thursday released a statement by Obama instructing his Health and Human Services secretary to draft rules requiring hospitals that receive Medicare and Medicaid payments to grant all patients the right to designate people who can visit and consult with them at crucial moments."

    Show me where ANY patient over the age of 18 already doesnt have this right. Its irrelevant. Its an appeasement of the gay voting block. It is the equiovalent of telling minorities "look...we know we destroyed your families with welfare...we have no economic opportunities for you, and arent going to do squat to help you improve your life...but hey...we just named the ****tiest and most crime ridden street in your communituy after Martin Luther King Jr. So..pop a cork! lets have a party! And remember...vote early and vote often...vote democrat!"

    OK...OK...Im wrong. This is a significant step for homosexuals everywhere. Now...why stop at gays...how about heterosexual boyfriends/girlfriends or live in couples? Dont they too deserve this awesome and significant executive ordered privelege?
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    From the OP

    "The White House on Thursday released a statement by Obama instructing his Health and Human Services secretary to draft rules requiring hospitals that receive Medicare and Medicaid payments to grant all patients the right to designate people who can visit and consult with them at crucial moments."

    Show me where ANY patient over the age of 18 already doesnt have this right. Its irrelevant. Its an appeasement of the gay voting block. It is the equiovalent of telling minorities "look...we know we destroyed your families with welfare...we have no economic opportunities for you, and arent going to do squat to help you improve your life...but hey...we just named the ****tiest and most crime ridden street in your communituy after Martin Luther King Jr. So..pop a cork! lets have a party!"

    OK...OK...Im wrong. This is a significant step for homosexuals everywhere. Now...why stop at gays...how about heterosexual boyfriends/girlfriends or live in couples? Dont they too deserve this awesome and significant executive ordered privelege?
    I can show you instances where it has not been allowed. It closes a loophole, regardless of whether it is widespread or rare. It is not appeasement. And your analogy is nothing but hysterical hyperbole.
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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Show me where ANY patient over the age of 18 already doesnt have this right.
    Here is one example I could find.

    Gay Woman Fights over Hospital Visitation Rights in Miami court | CommonDreams.org

    If you are saying every single hospital already allowed gay visitation, you're mistaken.

    But even if you weren't - so what? If so, this order is pointless, and therefore not news. Unless you oppose gay visitation rights, you should not even bother posting on this thread. Why does it bother you that Obama issued this order if you don't oppose it? If you don't oppose it, why do you care if Obama simply made it official?

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I can show you instances where it has not been allowed. It closes a loophole, regardless of whether it is widespread or rare. It is not appeasement. And your analogy is nothing but hysterical hyperbole.
    That describes this thread and the executive order to a T.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The GOP will have a really hard time explaining why they're repealing the right to visit a loved one in the hospital. If the GOP regained power and did this, they'd be right back out on their asses next election I expect.
    As long as their base accepts it and supports them, which tend to be social conservatives these days, then it will stick. They don't really care what the left thinks.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Here is one example I could find.

    Gay Woman Fights over Hospital Visitation Rights in Miami court | CommonDreams.org

    If you are saying every single hospital already allowed gay visitation, you're mistaken.

    But even if you weren't - so what? If so, this order is pointless, and therefore not news. Unless you oppose gay visitation rights, you should not even bother posting on this thread. Why does it bother you that Obama issued this order if you don't oppose it? If you don't oppose it, why do you care if Obama simply made it official?
    Why did he sensationalize it by specifying homosexuals? Why didnt he say ALL PERSONS...as in unmarried partners, coupled individuals, etc.

    Its idiocy...that's why I am opposed to it. that being said...you should host a party celebrating it.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    All you've really established with that timeline is that before civil rights, civil rights did not apply to certain groups until they did, such as with women (Women's Suffrage), minorities, and now with homosexuals. So all you've shown is that history changes things.

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    Re: Obama: gay partners should have hospital access

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    All you've really established with that timeline is that before civil rights, civil rights did not apply to certain groups until they did, such as with women (Women's Suffrage), minorities, and now with homosexuals. So all you've shown is that history changes things.
    Sex and race are genetic. Homosexuality has never been proved to be hereditary in any way shape or form so the association is dishonest to say the least.
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