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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    yeh and tin the same battle group as USS Chenney for exposing CIA emplyees!! tnump thump
    Except that never happened as it was Richard Armitage, pick up a ****ing paper.

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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    The Marines covered the crime up. Immunity was offered to some. All of them lied to investigators obstructing the truth... kinda like Libby did. The last guy is awaiting his trial and it looks like he'll go down for all of 'em. Murtha was courageous to expose it for what it reflects: the military was, and is, over deployed putting huge amounts of stress on our troops. Discharged vets have a much higher amount of suicides and domestic violence than ever in history. Why do you think that is? The courageous thing to do is speak up to fix things. The cowardly thing to do is to stick your head in the sand as if nothing is wrong.

    What will ya'll say when the last guy is convicted?

    Murtha is a hero.
    I thought that was the episode.

    Murtha didn't apologize because it was an "obvious" cover up.
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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Except that never happened as it was Richard Armitage, pick up a ****ing paper.
    More than one person exposed Wilson. Please try to keep up.
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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    The Marines covered the crime up. Immunity was offered to some. All of them lied to investigators obstructing the truth... kinda like Libby did.
    lol, the only guy who was tried for lying was found not guilty on all charges.

    The last guy is awaiting his trial and it looks like he'll go down for all of 'em.
    So you have one guy not charged with murder but rather with unpremeditated murder and you have 7 others who Murtha equally defamed who have had all charges outright dropped or have been found not guilty in a court of law.

    What will ya'll say when the last guy is convicted?
    Guilty until proven innocent, unless of course one is a jihadist held at Gitmo right? It's sad that you want to give accused terrorists more rights than accused marines, but we know which side you play for don't we?
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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Except that never happened as it was Richard Armitage, pick up a ****ing paper.
    Chenney had him do it ! Armitage was just the gopher. Why do you thing Chenney and his spawn are running their mouths so much? There are working on keeping the finger pointing away from them.
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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    So you have one guy not charged with murder but rather with unpremeditated murder and you have 7 others who Murtha equally defamed who have had all charges outright dropped or have been found not guilty in a court of law.
    The response was more schizophrenic than that, which implies something was deeply astray. Different persons involved in the trial had different priorities. Some people were genuinely interested in finding out exactly who was responsible and to what degree, others said there shouldn't even be a trial because no Iraqi would want to testify. The last position was particularly dubious. Basically translates into "damage control."


    Guilty until proven innocent, unless of course one is a jihadist right?
    If there are reasons to believe something is a cover up, we are free to argue them.

    Haditha killings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Allegedly, five Iraqi men, a taxi driver and four teenagers, were ordered out of their car and shot dead in the street principally by Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich. After their deaths, Lt. William T. Kallop, according to his statements to investigators, arrived on the scene. Kallop and others report receiving small-arms fire, which they attributed to a nearby house. Kallop gave the order "to take the house."[20] Nineteen of those killed were in three adjacent houses which U.S. Marines entered, throwing in grenades and shooting with automatic rifles.[21] According to Kallop,

    "The Marines cleared it the way they had been trained to clear it, which is frags first. … It was clear just by the looks of the room that frags went in and then the house was prepped and sprayed like with a machine gun and then they went in. And by the looks of it, they just . . . they went in, cleared the room, everybody was down."[20]

    On November 20, 2005 a Marine press release from Camp Blue Diamond in Ramadi reported the deaths of a U.S. Marine and 15 civilians. It said that the death of the civilians was a consequence of a roadside bomb and Iraqi insurgents. The initial U.S. military statement read:

    "A US marine and 15 civilians were killed yesterday from the blast of a roadside bomb in Haditha. Immediately following the bombing, gunmen attacked the convoy with small arms fire. Iraqi army soldiers and Marines returned fire, killing eight insurgents and wounding another."[2][22]

    Eman Waleed, a nine-year-old child who witnessed the incident, described the U.S. Marines entering their house. She said:

    "I couldn't see their faces very well - only their guns sticking in to the doorway. I watched them shoot my grandfather, first in the chest and then in the head. Then they killed my granny."[2]

    The director of the local hospital in Haditha, Dr Wahid, said that the 24 bodies were brought in two American humvees [2] to the hospital around midnight on November 19. While the Marines claim that the victims had been killed by shrapnel from the roadside bomb and that the men "were saboteurs", Dr Wahid said that there were "no organs slashed by shrapnel in any of the bodies". He further claimed that it appeared that "the victims were shot in the head and chest from close range."[2]

    Soon after the killings, the mayor of Haditha, Emad Jawad Hamza, led an angry delegation of elders up to the Haditha Dam Marine base allegedly complaining to the base captain.[2]

    The Marine Corps paid $38,000 to the families of 15 of the dead civilians.[23].
    The key point is that the soldiers were moving around; regardless of whether this allegation is right, based on the demographics of the people who were killed, we had to place the marines as moving around for these killings to make sense.
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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Chenney had him do it ! Armitage was just the gopher. Why do you thing Chenney and his spawn are running their mouths so much? There are working on keeping the finger pointing away from them.
    Wow you're joking right? Richard Armitage was a) not in the Bush inner circle, and b) was a well known beltway gossip.

    Of course you have some evidence to present backing up your claim that Armitage was speaking on the behalf of anyone when he leaked the identity of Plame to Novak right? Oh wait you have the "Cheney's spawn running around running their mouths," well touche sir, that'll hold up in any court in the Continental United States, Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico to boot.

    Do the gene pool a favor and go jump off a bridge before you procreate. KTHXBAI.

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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    cheney directed richard armitage to leak to novak that it was plame who selected wilson...

    LOL!

    armitage...

    and CHENEY!

    LOLOL!

    now, there's a TEAM!

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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Wow you're joking right? Richard Armitage was a) not in the Bush inner circle, and b) was a well known beltway gossip.

    Of course you have some evidence to present backing up your claim that Armitage was speaking on the behalf of anyone when he leaked the identity of Plame to Novak right? Oh wait you have the "Cheney's spawn running around running their mouths," well touche sir, that'll hold up in any court in the Continental United States, Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico to boot.

    Do the gene pool a favor and go jump off a bridge before you procreate. KTHXBAI.
    So since you are unable to come up with an intelligent position you decided to make a childish attaempt at an insult. You lose. But you know that already, don't you!!
    I do not recall the Viet Cong asking me if I was a natural born or Naturalized American before they shot at me, they just shot at all of us f107HyperSabr

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    Re: Critics Slam Decision to Name Navy Ship for John Murtha

    why did armitage whisper it to NOVAK, of all people?

    LOL!

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