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    Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

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    Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing - Washington Times


    The Obama administration is warning that the danger of a terrorist attack with nuclear weapons is increasing, but U.S. officials say the claim is not based on new intelligence and questioned whether the threat is being overstated.

    President Obama said in a speech before the 47-nation Nuclear Security Summit, which concluded Tuesday, that "the risk of a nuclear confrontation between nations has gone down, but the risk of nuclear attack has gone up."

    The two-day meeting concluded with an agreement by participants to take steps to prevent non-state actors like al Qaeda from obtaining nuclear weapons, either through theft of existing weapons or through making their own with pilfered nuclear material.


    Is this hype or real? Is this any different, than what Bush was doing when he was accused of "fear mongering"?


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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Is this hype or real? Is this any different, than what Bush was doing when he was accused of "fear mongering"?


    What say you?
    Honestly, how many times did you hear the words "mushroom cloud" as evidence that Bush was fearmongering so he could get his way? This is no different, but I suspect to most of the left, it's okay now.
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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Honestly, how many times did you hear the words "mushroom cloud" as evidence that Bush was fearmongering so he could get his way?
    The exact words "Mushroom Cloud"? I don't recall hearing those EXACT words from Bush, but pretty much the whole lead-up to the Iraq war was focused on the fear of terrorists obtaining WMDs. So yes, it was fear mongering on Bush's part.

    Now Obama is doing the same thing here, which is not ok to me.

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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    The risk that extremists could get a nuclear weapon was real when Bush was president, and is real now. It really doesn't matter what the public thinks, nor who is sitting in the oval office. The fact is, the world is full of nuclear weapons, some of which are not in the most secure of hands. Do we really know where all of the weapons of the old Soviet Union are now? What about North Korea, can we be sure that they wouldn't make one of theirs available? How about nuclear armed Pakistan, is there a guarantee that the Taliban isn't going to take them over? How close is Iran's crazy leader to getting a nuclear device?

    The risk is real, and has been for some time. There is no guarantee that we can keep WMD of any kind from the extremist crazies of the world. That is the reality. Being crazy, they would be perfectly willing to bring a bomb into one of our cities and die in the blast in order to go out in a blaze of glory along with a few tens of thousands of infidels.
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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    obama's is a fantasy world

    he accomplished SQUAT at his stupid summit

    he had no CHANCE of accomplishment at his stupid summit

    not here in the raunchy world of realpolitik in which the rest of us are required to reside

    a non binding communique

    nuclear concessions from mexico

    these are accomplishments?

    our nation is OUT OF WORK

    our STATES are bankrupt

    we are looking at FOUR POINT FIVE MILLION FORECLOSURES in terrible 2010

    a suicidal SIXTY PERCENT increase over awful 09

    and obama-ahab is chasing pots of poetry and empty promises in some planet-headed symposium comprised of pie-eyed platitudes

    he APPEARS preposterous

    appearances ENCAPSULATE politics

    juxtapose IRAN, here

    contemplate HU's obstreperous posture pertaining to SANCTIONS

    ie, ponder REALITY

    because your PRETTIFIED president sure can't

    staring into the narcissistic reflection of his NUKE SUMMIT

    in WASHINGTON DC

    summoned by BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

    in APRIL, 2010

    it is to LOL!

    one of the most ridiculous politico-ops i can recall seeing

    he's getting more and more DISCONNECTED from reality every day

    he might as well go back to IOWA to sell health care

    we got REAL problems, here, in AMERICA, narcissus

    quit STROKING YOUR CHIN

    and FIX EM!
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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The exact words "Mushroom Cloud"? I don't recall hearing those EXACT words from Bush, but pretty much the whole lead-up to the Iraq war was focused on the fear of terrorists obtaining WMDs. So yes, it was fear mongering on Bush's part.

    Now Obama is doing the same thing here, which is not ok to me.
    Yes, those words, but they weren't aid by Bush.

    At least you're consistent. Personally, Bush was right and so is Obama. A threat of terrorists getting their hands on nuclear weapons or material exists, and isn't going away any time soon.
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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Is this hype or real? Is this any different, than what Bush was doing when he was accused of "fear mongering"?


    What say you?
    I guess what it boils down to is that Bush used these terms in order to start war with a country as a pre-emptive strike based on the idea that they had WMD's and they really didnt. If Obama starts talking about terrorist nuclear threats and then actually tries to start a war over it then maybe you'll have a point.

    As of right now he's saying it in the context that countries should keep their supplies safe and make it harder for terrorists to get their hands on nuclear material. I would think that this would have a broad agreement amongst people from both sides of the isle, but since it's Obama of course no conservative or republican dares to agree, lol.

    It's hilarious. Make a point about the similarities of Obama's stance on nuclear weapons and how eerily close it is to Reagan's and they do everything they can to twist and turn so that they can disagree.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...d-kennedy.html

    If they find one similarity in a sentence uttered by Obama for completely different reasons, to something that the Bush admin said, well then you're really on to something, lol.

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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    He could just be planting a seed so if we ever do get attacked again, he can say "Told ya so."

    I don't think anyone ever doubted President Bush when he told us of the terrorist threat. I think the biggest issue people had with him was his path to war in a place most people felt wasn't at the top of the list of priorities as far as terrorism was concerned. The "mushroom cloud" threat, albeit valid, was manipulated to get us into Iraq with popular support. People felt somewhat decieved.

    I don't know what Obama's angle is yet.

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    Re: Obama says terrorist nuclear risk is growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    He could just be planting a seed so if we ever do get attacked again, he can say "Told ya so."

    I don't think anyone ever doubted President Bush when he told us of the terrorist threat. I think the biggest issue people had with him was his path to war in a place most people felt wasn't at the top of the list of priorities as far as terrorism was concerned. The "mushroom cloud" threat, albeit valid, was manipulated to get us into Iraq with popular support. People felt somewhat decieved.

    I don't know what Obama's angle is yet.
    I hope that his point is to talk other countries into better safe keeping of their nuclear material, something like he has just worked out with Mexico. That's what I think as of right now.

    Obama's nuclear summit yields results he sought | McClatchy

    "The summit produced a number of concrete agreements, including a decision by Ukraine to dispose of all of its estimated 90 kilograms of highly enriched uranium by 2012, and an accord under which the U.S. and Canada will help Mexico convert a research reactor to lower enriched fuel. Chile also has said it is giving up highly enriched uranium."

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