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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    For what, other than to say we did again?

    Fiscal 2010 NASA had a 18.7 billion dollar budget.

    The National Parks Service had a 2.7 billion dollar budget. The National Parks Service has been underfunded for years now. The budget for the entire Department of Interior, is 12 billion dollars, which manages 500 million acres of parks and wild lands, is still less than NASA, and it has been chronically underfunded for years now.

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    Should we do a better job preserving our national treasures for future generations, or build a base on the moon? If we are prioritizing here, what is more important?
    Build a base on the moon. It will help us stage access to earth orbit and to exploration of the solar system beyond the moon.

    If you want to increase funding to the Department of the Interior, you should have thought that through before passing another entitlement.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Build a base on the moon. It will help us stage access to earth orbit and to exploration of the solar system beyond the moon.
    The solar system can be explored with robots.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    I would happily keep NASA funded and bump up the NPS budget by a few million before I'd want the on going health care entitlement program whose expenses trump both of them.

    I actually think the protection and maintaining of our national parks IS something the federal government is best suited to do as it is federal land and important to culture and history to maintain these areas.

    I can't give you an either or with NASA and the Parks because I think both are reasonable government actions, plus the hypothetical falls through when you realize its NOT just one or the other on those but there's numerous other portions of the budget and government that could be looked at.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The solar system can be explored with robots.
    Yes, launched from the moon. Asteroids can only be mined by humans, though, at this time.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yes, launched from the moon.
    We can use robots for that too.

    Asteroids can only be mined by humans, though, at this time.
    Last I checked that only happens in the movies.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    We can use robots for that too.
    Robots can't do everything. They can't build spaceships or collect energy.

    Last I checked that only happens in the movies.
    There are a lot of rare heavy metals in those asteroids.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Robots can't do everything. They can't build spaceships or collect energy.
    Why not they practically build all the cars on Earth now.



    There are a lot of rare heavy metals in those asteroids.
    Rock on Man

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I would happily keep NASA funded and bump up the NPS budget by a few million before I'd want the on going health care entitlement program whose expenses trump both of them.

    I actually think the protection and maintaining of our national parks IS something the federal government is best suited to do as it is federal land and important to culture and history to maintain these areas.

    I can't give you an either or with NASA and the Parks because I think both are reasonable government actions, plus the hypothetical falls through when you realize its NOT just one or the other on those but there's numerous other portions of the budget and government that could be looked at.
    To continue our discussion a bit, you might remember that one of the reasons I gave for not liking the health care bill that eventually passed is that now was not the right time for such spending. For that same reason, I don't have a problem with funding for NASA or Interior to be down currently. Deficit spending to recover from a recession is a standard tool in the toolbox for such situations. The problem being that since we were heavily deficit spending going into the recession, it has put spending levels at, to my mind, and unacceptable level. Now we have a situation where I will support just about any cut in spending, even for programs I do like. I think the only place I would not cut spending is education, simply because that is too vital to our future.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why not they practically build all the cars on Earth now.
    That is not accurate. They assist is some areas of building a car, but not even most of the building. Almost all the assembly work is done by people, and some of the fabrication.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To continue our discussion a bit, you might remember that one of the reasons I gave for not liking the health care bill that eventually passed is that now was not the right time for such spending. For that same reason, I don't have a problem with funding for NASA or Interior to be down currently. Deficit spending to recover from a recession is a standard tool in the toolbox for such situations. The problem being that since we were heavily deficit spending going into the recession, it has put spending levels at, to my mind, and unacceptable level. Now we have a situation where I will support just about any cut in spending, even for programs I do like. I think the only place I would not cut spending is education, simply because that is too vital to our future.
    I thought deficit spending was suppose to help us recover from a recession.

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