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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Those materials can be stored outside a lifesupport facility.
    subject to extreme cold, extreme heat, radiation, and maybe even micrometeors....there is no atmosphere on the moon to moderate the potential damage to everything we haul up there.
    There is a recent show, on science channel, I think, that lays out all the problems we will face to "man the moon". Those kinds of shows will pop up about once a month, repeated and repeated again...
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It's the baiting and confrontational attitude. It had nada to do with the Lucy comment. It was the "I won't be holding my breath" comment. It is not fun having a discussion with those who practice such things.
    Yeah but c'mon. You did start with the "did you miss."

    I'm not saying it's your fault, I'm just saying I try to give people a little leeway before I get mad because it's so hard to read facial cues when you're typing.

    Plus as a rule, I try not to let people I don't even know get me upset. I have enough problems with the ones I do know.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Why wouldn't a staging platform in geosynchronous orbit be significantly cheaper than staging on the moon? What does the moon provide aside from gravity?
    You said it, gravity. There would be less deleterious effects hosting the crews on the moon for long term. Plus there is the research into moon manufacturing which would be possible. I think I heard that there is a compound on the moon that could result in O2 being produced, but that could easily have been a sci-fi story.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    subject to extreme cold, extreme heat, radiation, and maybe even micrometeors....there is no atmosphere on the moon to moderate the potential damage to everything we haul up there.
    There is a recent show, on science channel, I think, that lays out all the problems we will face to "man the moon". Those kinds of shows will pop up about once a month, repeated and repeated again...
    We could pput it in a hole to protect from micrometeors and radiation and temperature (no atmosphere for convection, conduction temp in hole would be cold even when direct sunlight on surface, radiation accounted for). So the only issue would be cold and that won't be a problem for any of fuel, food, O2 or W2O.

    I am sorry I missed the show...plenty of problems.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Yeah but c'mon. You did start with the "did you miss."

    I'm not saying it's your fault, I'm just saying I try to give people a little leeway before I get mad because it's so hard to read facial cues when you're typing.

    Plus as a rule, I try not to let people I don't even know get me upset. I have enough problems with the ones I do know.
    I honestly didn't think my "did you miss" was very confrontational, but perhaps it is. I got irritated and posted that comment, then thought better of it and deleted it.

    I don't get mad at anyone in real life! But I do let out some emotion on DP at times, tis true.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You said it, gravity. There would be less deleterious effects hosting the crews on the moon for long term. Plus there is the research into moon manufacturing which would be possible. I think I heard that there is a compound on the moon that could result in O2 being produced, but that could easily have been a sci-fi story.
    It's easy to achieve gravity in a space station of the ring design - much easier than involving the moon.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It's easy to achieve gravity in a space station of the ring design - much easier than involving the moon.
    That's true. Leaving the research of the industrialization of the moon as an unachieved objective.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I honestly didn't think my "did you miss" was very confrontational, but perhaps it is. I got irritated and posted that comment, then thought better of it and deleted it.

    I don't get mad at anyone in real life! But I do let out some emotion on DP at times, tis true.
    I know I saw. I deleted mine too, but it was too late, the damage had been done.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    ah, so the man who just EXPANDED MEDICARE AND MEDICAID BY TWELVE MILLION POOR SCHMUCKS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY CUTTING M&M's ALREADY OVER-STRAINED AND VITALLY-RELIED-UPON BUDGETS BY HALF A TRIL is suddenly gonna save us from BANKRUPTCY by eliminating forty five cents from nasa spending!

    LOL!

    the piefaced prez who just spent EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO BILLION DOLLARS on a STIMULUS which he can't call a STIMULUS anymore (the word is political obscenity), all the while PROMISING unemployment would cap at EIGHT PERCENT thereby...

    that PERSONAL INCOME would grow THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS per american thereby...

    the same obtuse obama who just advanced A HUNDRED THOUSAND upside down homeowners mortgage modifications, SIXTY PERCENT of whom have already REDEFAULTED...

    the same keynesian catastrophe who just raised the DEBT CEILING by TWO TRIL, who just proposed a BUDGET with ONE POINT SIX TRIL of RED, who borrows FOURTEEN PERCENT of gdp just to get by and puts us on course to having to borrow NINETY PERCENT of gdp by decade's end...

    suddenly, this financial FLUMMOX is gonna SAVE us all from going BANKRUPT by trimming the FINGERNAILS at NASA!

    it is to LOL!

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    heavy lift, manned flight, long-term habitation of space and the moon, research platform for industries on the moon, way station to mars and earth orbit maintenance...
    we have higher priorities right now than worrying about a way station to mars. seriously.

    space exploration is just not essential right now.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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