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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let me do a slight parody of certain of our posters...

    "OH NO, Obama spends too much money."

    "OH NO, Obama cut spending on a program I like."

    Sorry, you cannot have it both ways. If you think spending is a problem, then spending cuts should be praised. If you think we cannot cut spending on this or that program, you bitching about spending is phony.
    I think its important to have government spending, but the point of the government is to look out for the welfare of its people. And I don't see how the government thinks its beneficial to feed & clothe & provide healthcare to people who don't deserve it. Why do they deserve it? Because they are lazy and they don't want to work but want to live a good life? I'm sorry to say but you deserve what you earn and those people taking welfare payments are a giant prick on the backs of taxpayers. They don't need the living standard they have now and really it isn't so hard to feed yourself and family there are so many items that cost a dollar or less that a family of five can live off of without government assistance. This whole country was founded on the individual success with a responsible government. But now people don't want to work because they know the government will give them more money for not working than if they worked a minimum paid job. Does that make sense? That you earn more money for not working than you do working?
    Also the NASA budget is 17.6B dollars and that makes up less than half a percentage point of what the Federal government spends. Back when we were doing Apollo 11 and stuff NASAs budget was 25B(adjusted for inflation) a year and that made up 2.5% of what the federal government spent. You see the federal government never gave much money to NASA in the first place, if we currently gave NASA 2.5% of what the Feds spend then I am sure we already would have intersteller travel or at least it would have been possible to travel to the moon as a vacation site. Cutting NASAs budget won't do anything in balancing the budget, its only going to set things far back for our achievements. And another thing if you think Obama is a good president then why isn't he transparent and whatever happened to Gitmo? The guy sucks and knowing the American people who voted for Bush twice, the people will vote for Obama twice and it will be a very big mistake.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Only a very few, like astronauts....
    The rest have knowledge and skills that could be used to help solve our energy problems....
    Not just the astronauts, who have training to operate in space. There is also all the engineers who build systems for space - systems that the astronauts can use in space, thrust systems for getting to space, re-entry systems for returning from space. Now some of these experts would have jobs in an unmanned program, but certainly not all of them.

    If it was profitable to go to space, I would be all over private industry doing so. Unfortunately, the only things profitable about space is tourism and satellite launch.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    So you would drive your car from San Diego to Chicago to stage mateials and fuel for a trip to Los Angeles?
    Wrong analogy. You must not understand Newton's Laws.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Antibiotics, most cancer drugs, oil, natural gas, coal, virtually all building materials, everything you eat, everything needed for life itself is brought to you by the organisms living on the surface of this planet and the resources that are either on its surface or no more than a few miles into its crust.....this versus velcro, tang, and teflon.
    The 3 items you mention had no input from NASA....just in case someone got the wrong idea about them...
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Personally I think scientific achievement and exploration are things always worth funding. There is never going to be a point where we can say "Ok, we've solved ALL the problems on Earth, now we can move onto exploration and related scientific advancement."

    Humans have a manifest destiny to explore and populate space, and America should be at the forefront of that endeavor.
    and we should bankrupt the nation to achieve it?
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Wait...how did we lose technology?
    ssshhhhh, not lost, stored in a warehouse somewhere, next to the box that holds the Holy Grail....
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    I think its important to have government spending, but the point of the government is to look out for the welfare of its people. And I don't see how the government thinks its beneficial to feed & clothe & provide healthcare to people who don't deserve it. Why do they deserve it? Because they are lazy and they don't want to work but want to live a good life? I'm sorry to say but you deserve what you earn and those people taking welfare payments are a giant prick on the backs of taxpayers. They don't need the living standard they have now and really it isn't so hard to feed yourself and family there are so many items that cost a dollar or less that a family of five can live off of without government assistance. This whole country was founded on the individual success with a responsible government. But now people don't want to work because they know the government will give them more money for not working than if they worked a minimum paid job. Does that make sense? That you earn more money for not working than you do working?
    Also the NASA budget is 17.6B dollars and that makes up less than half a percentage point of what the Federal government spends. Back when we were doing Apollo 11 and stuff NASAs budget was 25B(adjusted for inflation) a year and that made up 2.5% of what the federal government spent. You see the federal government never gave much money to NASA in the first place, if we currently gave NASA 2.5% of what the Feds spend then I am sure we already would have intersteller travel or at least it would have been possible to travel to the moon as a vacation site. Cutting NASAs budget won't do anything in balancing the budget, its only going to set things far back for our achievements. And another thing if you think Obama is a good president then why isn't he transparent and whatever happened to Gitmo? The guy sucks and knowing the American people who voted for Bush twice, the people will vote for Obama twice and it will be a very big mistake.
    You just proved Redress's point exactly.

    You're okay with the government spending...just on things you want. Maybe other people value welfare and think the space program is a waste of money. Is there any reason why their belief is less valid than yours?
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I'll give you a hint. It's pretty much accepted that the human race began in Africa.

    I don't live in Africa. Do you? We've survived this long by moving, and being willing to move, to areas that are more advantageous to our continued survival. The next step in that process is pretty obvious.
    Obvious, but not attainable within the next thousand years or so...
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Damn. Just...damn. That is quite frankly the most assinine thing I have ever heard. I mean if it's interfering with new research so much, just BOX IT UP! Why do we give them tax dollars to destroy research that our tax dollars pay for?
    Kelzie, this is the first not so smart thing I have ever read in one of your posts....
    IF it was destroyed, it was done so the engineers and scientists could develop it again. Job security....got it now...?
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Buzz Aldrin thinks Obama's plan is good.
    The big duel, Buzz and Neil, light sabers, at dawn, tomorrow....
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