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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    To be fair, about Obama's plan, isn't moving to commercially built spacecraft a good idea? It seems to me the cost of that policy is that we can't have a clear Kennedy-esque vision.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post

    Space research, like almost all research is a luxury. When we're running a massive deficit, it is time to cut the luxuries, no matter how good they make us look.
    The problem with that argument is, we are not cutting NASA's budget..... it is increasing and is going to be mostly the Global Warming Propaganda arm of this administration.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    The problem with that argument is, we are not cutting NASA's budget..... it is increasing and is going to be mostly the Global Warming Propaganda arm of this administration.
    Global warming propaganda...my beliefs on global warming aside, this is exactly what I'm talking about. If our government was an individual, they'd have a balloon loan, their house would be 50% underwater and they'd owe 35k in credit card debt that they've already taken an equity line of credit to pay off once. Plus, you know, they'd feel completely entitled to eat out once a week and take a two vacations a year to Vegas because they've "earned" it.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    The problem with that argument is, we are not cutting NASA's budget..... it is increasing and is going to be mostly the Global Warming Propaganda arm of this administration.
    Today 01:02 PM
    The idea that we were cutting the space program because Obama was looking to siphon funds from other programs to finance his own policies is false.

    This isn't about global warming either.

    This is about what is best for the future of the space program. I think the general idea is that the NASA apparatus is too incompetent and political to carry on long term projects. We're trying to do Kennedy things with no Cold War; like trying to finish your essay when the due date is a month away.

    Commercial companies have to struggle for their survival and for profit. NASA lacks that incentive. So, instead of working on shuttles that can get us to the moon, they are going to focus on more specialized technological development (like propulsion; turn the Mars gap from three months to a few days).

    Until now, NASA was responsible for general space exploration (putting ships into orbit) and developing such technologies. Now they only have to do the latter.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    our space program has always been a manifestation of american EXCEPTIONALISM

    thus, obama must cut it

    didn't his own science czar, mr holdren, the man who co-wrote a textbook advocating forced abortions and sterilization to control population growth, just declare last week to a group of students at the american association for the advancement of science that "we cannot expect to be #1 forever?"

    and that such slippage on the part of the greatest nation in the history of the world is "not purely bad?"

    CNSNews.com - White House Science ?Czar? Tells Students: U.S. Can?t Expect to Be Number One in Science and Technology Forever

    these guys in this white house actually believe this stuff, they're really that far out there

    instead of demanding excellence and leadership from american endeavors, this white house BOWS to the leader of COMMUNIST CHINA

    the juxtaposition of those 2 images, the sci-czar conceding and the obtuse obama bowing, says it all

    so does the contrast between the BOW to HU and the infamous PHOTO of the DALAI LAMA having to step over onion rinds and banana peels to exit his white house interview

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    the sci-guy's text pretty clearly spelled it all out:

    “A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States,” Holdren and two co-authors wrote. “De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses of overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries.”
    american EXCEPTIONALISM is seen as chauvinism

    and must be DE-DEVELOPED

    really, really weird

    the most RADICAL leadership america has ever suffered

    (thank goodness it's so incompetent)

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The idea that we were cutting the space program because Obama was looking to siphon funds from other programs to finance his own policies is false.

    This isn't about global warming either.

    This is about what is best for the future of the space program. I think the general idea is that the NASA apparatus is too incompetent and political to carry on long term projects. We're trying to do Kennedy things with no Cold War; like trying to finish your essay when the due date is a month away.

    Commercial companies have to struggle for their survival and for profit. NASA lacks that incentive.
    Maybe you missed this the first time I posted it.....

    NASA, the agency known for exploring space, will be spending a lot more time studying Earth in the next few years.

    The Obama administration has proposed a budget for NASA that includes billions of dollars for satellites and other tools to help scientists investigate Earth-bound problems, especially climate change.
    NASA Slated To Receive Billions To Study Earth : NPR

    Proposed work assignments under NASA’s turnabout Fiscal 2011 budget request would spread the agency’s five-year, $6-billion total budget increase — and the new jobs that may go with it — across the agency’s 10 field centers.
    NASA Plan Would Spread The Wealth | AVIATION WEEK

    So, we are not cutting a luxury, we are increasing the budget, and adding a propaganda arm to perpetuate the fraud.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    our space program has always been a manifestation of american EXCEPTIONALISM

    thus, obama must cut it

    didn't his own science czar, mr holdren, the man who co-wrote a textbook advocating forced abortions and sterilization to control population growth, just declare last week to a group of students at the american association for the advancement of science that "we cannot expect to be #1 forever?"

    and that such slippage on the part of the greatest nation in the history of the world is "not purely bad?"

    CNSNews.com - White House Science ?Czar? Tells Students: U.S. Can?t Expect to Be Number One in Science and Technology Forever

    these guys in this white house actually believe this stuff, they're really that far out there

    instead of demanding excellence and leadership from american endeavors, this white house BOWS to the leader of COMMUNIST CHINA

    the juxtaposition of those 2 images, the sci-czar conceding and the obtuse obama bowing, says it all

    so does the contrast between the BOW to HU and the infamous PHOTO of the DALAI LAMA having to step over onion rinds and banana peels to exit his white house interview

    Getty Images - Unsupported browser detected

    the sci-guy's text pretty clearly spelled it all out:



    american EXCEPTIONALISM is seen as chauvinism

    and must be DE-DEVELOPED

    really, really weird

    the most RADICAL leadership america has ever suffered

    (thank goodness it's so incompetent)
    "sigh"

    That isn't how it is.

    NASA has been using a fleet of shuttles for decades to perform space exploration; not moon, just exiting orbit and collecting data from space.

    That shuttle fleet is about to be retired.

    We were supposed to have a whole new line of technology on the horrizon to incorporate into our new fleet of shuttles.

    That technology doesn't exist. NASA didn't develop it quickly enough.

    So, our new fleet of shuttles will be based technological clones of our current fleet of shuttles; for all practical and dramatic purposes.

    Obama didn't want to invest into shuttle clones.

    He doesn't not want to have shuttles.

    So, move shuttle-making to the private sector, and see if they can make any improvements on shuttle tech.

    This frees up NASA to focus exclusively on new tech; to focus exclusively on better propulsion systems, for example, cut the Mars-time down to
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Space is the future its the only place left to go, left to explore.
    We live on an unexplored world. Biology is still practically in its infancy. We have documented only around 10% of the species of plants and animals on earth. There is still a lot to learn about our world.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    NASA, the agency known for exploring space, will be spending a lot more time studying Earth in the next few years.

    The Obama administration has proposed a budget for NASA that includes billions of dollars for satellites and other tools to help scientists investigate Earth-bound problems, especially climate change.
    A comparatively small amount of their budget. So you are still wrong.

    By the way, while I know you will never believe humans could ever do anything to change the Earth's climate in even the slightest way, no matter what, because it is physically impossible for a carbon-exhausting species of billions spanning the entire globe to induce any changes in their environment, but even if it was only theoretically possible, the government would actually have a responsibility to develop tech to better determine the nature and causality of such climate change.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    We live on an unexplored world. Biology is still practically in its infancy. We have documented only around 10% of the species of plants and animals on earth. There is still a lot to learn about our world.
    I would have to agree with you. Being a molecular biologist in training I can say we still know very little about the processes that go on in the cell or even about our own genetics. I have heard many scientists say that we understand outer space better than we understand the depths of the earth's oceans. I would think exploring the depths of the ocean's would be interesting, and what we find biologically could possibly help us out. They have found antibacterial chemicals in sponges, who knows what we may find in organisms or bacteria that live under that pressure and in that dark environment.

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