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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I obviously know very little about what goes on at NASA, but let me get this straight. They destroyed the technology that allowed us to land on the moon because it was competing with a different shuttle?
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    I believe what happened is that Obama redirected funds towards the space program and gave NASA a massive tithe to the church of anthropogenic global warming. He is having research why humans definitely cause the earth's fever.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I believe what happened is that Obama redirected funds towards the space program and gave NASA a massive tithe to the church of anthropogenic global warming. He is having research why humans definitely cause the earth's fever.
    Yup........

    NASA Slated To Receive Billions To Study Earth : NPR
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Yup...... politics.
    Damn. Just...damn. That is quite frankly the most assinine thing I have ever heard. I mean if it's interfering with new research so much, just BOX IT UP! Why do we give them tax dollars to destroy research that our tax dollars pay for?
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Wait...how did we lose technology?
    We lose technology all the time, it's really quite simple. People who work on the system don't write everything down. But the majority of what we previously used to get to the moon has been disassembled and sold off. In the end, it was made obsolete or forgotten. We don't have the technology at this point to go back, we'd have to remake the entire lander. It's not like we couldn't, but it's more like "what's the point?".
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    There once was a day, not that long ago when Americans took pride in being the world leader in science, technology and the adnacements of exploration and science.

    When exactly did that die?

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There once was a day, not that long ago when Americans took pride in being the world leader in science, technology and the adnacements of exploration and science.

    When exactly did that die?
    I just do not understand your mindset. While I haven't seen any of your posts on the deficit, I do recall that you are fiscally conservative and strongly support fiscal reponsibility.

    Space research, like almost all research is a luxury. When we're running a massive deficit, it is time to cut the luxuries, no matter how good they make us look.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There once was a day, not that long ago when Americans took pride in being the world leader in science, technology and the adnacements of exploration and science.

    When exactly did that die?
    Oh, we are the world leader in science and technology. It's our main export. But there are many facets of science and technology and that doesn't revolve having some manned space program. There is plenty of science to study on earth, plenty of technology to develop on earth. There is little reason at this point to take money away from all that and throw it at a manned space program; which is what it would take in order to conceivably have a functioning manned space program.
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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I just do not understand your mindset. While I haven't seen any of your posts on the deficit, I do recall that you are fiscally conservative and strongly support fiscal reponsibility.
    This is true, but not really relevant -- if this sort of this were a priority, like it used to be, then spending on something less of a priority could be cut to fund it.

    Space research, like almost all research is a luxury.
    So are entitlements, and in that, I agree that it is time to cut the luxuries, no matter how good they make us look (or feel).

    And, really, its not even a matter of looking good -- expanding our technological base through our own efforts is far better than waiting for others to do it and then paying them to let us use it.

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    Re: Neil Armstrong, other astronauts call Obama's NASA plans 'devastating'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Ah, to be able to simplify issues to the point that thought is uneccesary....

    I believe I'll wait for Obama's Canaveral speech to weigh in on this, except to say that Bush's half-assed plan for NASA derailed real progress, which now has to be made up somehow. A seamless progression of manned orbital vehicles should have been anticipated and budgeted in the early 2000's, instead we have the shuttle retiring with nothing to follow it.
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