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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who do you think was pope when all this happened?
    It has been happening for hundreds of years so we cannot blame JP II alone since that would not only be unfair but very very wrong!!!!
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    The pope should resign. And even if he didn't, I just don't get how the catholic church could possibly keep digging themselves into a hole. They need to come on and admit it all. That way they can have forgiveness, but I guess its do as I say, not as I do.

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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The pope should resign. And even if he didn't, I just don't get how the catholic church could possibly keep digging themselves into a hole. They need to come on and admit it all. That way they can have forgiveness, but I guess its do as I say, not as I do.
    Here is a story about the global view

    Predator priests shuffled around globe
    Victim: Transfer of abusive clerics was called the geographical cure

    Predator priests shuffled around globe - World Faith- msnbc.com

    [html]By ALESSANDRA RIZZO, BRADLEY BROOKS

    updated 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
    RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - There he was, five decades later, the priest who had raped Joe Callander in Massachusetts. The photo in the Roman Catholic newsletter showed him with a smile across his wrinkled face, near-naked Amazon Indian children in his arms and at his feet.
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    his is damning "In an investigation spanning 21 countries across six continents, The Associated Press found 30 cases of priests accused of abuse who were transferred or moved abroad. Some escaped police investigations. Many had access to children in another country, and some abused again."
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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Disgusting perverted religion.
    You have a right to your opinion just as you have a right to be wrong and you are very adept at the later.

    Let's be serious it is not the religion but the workers (priests) and really a portion of priests and only those who are the perverts. If a Rabbi molests a Jewish child those that make Judism a "perverted religion". When a Babtist minister bangs boys at a bible camp those that invalidate the entire Babtist reliogion ? Is a Muslin does blah blah blah __________________________ fill in the blanks!!!!
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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    You have a right to your opinion just as you have a right to be wrong and you are very adept at the later.

    Let's be serious it is not the religion but the workers (priests) and really a portion of priests and only those who are the perverts. If a Rabbi molests a Jewish child those that make Judism a "perverted religion". When a Babtist minister bangs boys at a bible camp those that invalidate the entire Babtist reliogion ? Is a Muslin does blah blah blah __________________________ fill in the blanks!!!!
    I understand your point, and it's possible that reefedjib wasn't just talking about the molesting. I personally do not like Catholicism because it doesn't accept that people are humans. Every effing thing is a sin. Masturbating is completely normal, and that's a sin? Having sex with someone you're not married to is a sin. Lusting after someone is a sin. It's just ridiculous. I don't know why I didn't leave that religion sooner, but my life has been so much happier since I did. I don't run around feeling guilty all the time for my "thoughts" and actions.

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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    You have a right to your opinion just as you have a right to be wrong and you are very adept at the later.
    I do and like everyone I have been wrong. In this however, I am right. The ****ing church hid these mother****ers. It is an institutional problem. The church is perverted. The church is the religion. Therefore, the religion is perverted.

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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I understand your point, and it's possible that reefedjib wasn't just talking about the molesting. I personally do not like Catholicism because it doesn't accept that people are humans. Every effing thing is a sin. Masturbating is completely normal, and that's a sin? Having sex with someone you're not married to is a sin. Lusting after someone is a sin. It's just ridiculous. I don't know why I didn't leave that religion sooner, but my life has been so much happier since I did. I don't run around feeling guilty all the time for my "thoughts" and actions.
    Those things that you cite as "Lusting after someone is a sin" those are sort of the lower level "beliefs" or rules of the Church and does not constitute "the religion". The core of "the religion" are the beliefs that Christ was the savior and that he rose from the 'dead', and that he was the son of God.." Some of the other stuff that you cited such as the "Masturbating" being a sin can be related to the interpretation of the two books of the Judeo-Christian Bible.

    Many of the "rules" of Catholocism that I have a problem with are those that "man" created and I will proudly admit that I am a cafeteria Catholic in that I decide which rules or conventions I adhere to. The prohibition of marriage for Catholic ( Western Catholic) priests is in my mind one stupid counterproductive man made rule. Your brain dead "can't think" for himself Catholic thinks that the anti-marriage prohibition for priests was a "law "of Jesus.

    We need to separet the failings and stupidtocities of those who run the Church from "the religion" of the Church.
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    Re: Priest calls for pope's resignation

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Let's be serious it is not the religion but the workers (priests) and really a portion of priests and only those who are the perverts. If a Rabbi molests a Jewish child those that make Judism a "perverted religion". When a Babtist minister bangs boys at a bible camp those that invalidate the entire Babtist reliogion ? Is a Muslin does blah blah blah __________________________ fill in the blanks!!!!
    And let's be serious, it is not just the priests who diddled little boys which is a problem. It is not a case of a boy masturbating, or even of a priest masturbating a little boy. It is the church hierarchy hiding these individuals and relocating them to where they could do the same thing all over again, which some of them did. It is about the church hiding it's transgressions.

    In the case of the Rabbi, the Jewish synagogue did not hide him. The Baptist minister was not protected by his church. The Muslim acted alone. In the case of the Catholic, the entire church protected him.

    So the church is a perverted institution - we have established that. The only question that remains is whether it is fair to claim that the church is the religion, and thus the religion is perverted. I believe the church defines the religion. Without the Catholic church, there is no Catholic religion. Therefore, the Catholic religion is perverted.

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