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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i hope they are arrested. this is going to far.


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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i hope they are arrested. this is going to far.
    You want to arrest a state legislature for creating a state militia?
    Who would arrest them? On what grounds?

    Or, you want to arrest a group for lobbying a state legislature to do the same?
    Who would arrest them? On what grounds?

    Or, did you just not read the story?
    OR, do you just not understand how these things work?
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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Oklahoma and "well regulated" probably shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Oklahoma and "well regulated" probably shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
    Ah... liberal elitism.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Oh and lets not confuse my retorts to the "teabagee" group, and others of that nature, as a flippant attitude to all left wingers, That would be a mistake, as my responses to them have been a purposeful exercise that has cut the use of that vulgar term from 20+ a day, to none today.... Thank me very much.
    Sorry to side track the thread but you started it with that nonsense.

    The use or not, of the term "teabagger/bagger" seems directly proportional to the subject matter and not to your "anti-vulgar" campaign hypocrisy. Unless you'd like to prove causation.

    there was a method to my madness. I hope you can see that.
    Nope, just madness.

    You may now return to the ridiculous topic.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ah... liberal elitism.
    No. I'm not the type.

    Do you know why Texas doesn't fall into the Gulf of Mexico?
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sounds rather idiotic but I kind of want to wait and see what it is. From the sounds of it I wonder if it'll end up being more like a National Guard type thing, simply localized to the state.

    If that's the case, strangely enough, I'd rather like it. I know one of the issues with katrina and others was National Guard members being deployed. Having a force focused simply in the state that is able to give aid to emergency situations but is not bound to the federal government would assure that emergency response for the state could be possible.

    The language in this seems rather inflamatory, especially since "militia" in recent times has been something that conjures images of backwoods rednecks stock piling guns and thinking they're Green Beret's. However that's hardly the only definition of militia and with this going officially through the state I'd be willing to hold off judgement until we can see more information that's not simply broad strokes and stereotyped words.
    Let me make sure I understand this correctly.

    The National Guard of the United States is a reserve military force composed of state National Guard militia members or units under federally recognized active or inactive armed force service for the United States.[1][2] The National Guard of the United States is a joint reserve component of the United States Army and the United States Air Force and maintains two subcomponents: the Army National Guard of the United States for the Army[1] and the Air Force's Air National Guard of the United States.[1]

    Established under Title 10 and Title 32 of the U.S. Code, state National Guard serves as part of the first-line defense for the United States.[3] The state National Guard is divided up into units stationed in each of the 50 states and U.S. territories and operates under their respective state governor or territorial adjutant general.[4] The National Guard may be called up for active duty by state governors or territorial adjutant general to help respond to domestic emergencies and disasters, such as those caused by hurricanes, floods, and earthquakes.[4]
    So because the federal government decided to use the States National Guard to fight in a foreign war, Oklahoma wants to create, basically, a second National Guard for their state? Another government bureaucracy, yeah, that sounds about right for small government rightwingers.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    So because the federal government decided to use the States National Guard to fight in a foreign war, Oklahoma wants to create, basically, a second National Guard for their state? Another government bureaucracy, yeah, that sounds about right for small government rightwingers.
    The National Guard is a federal force, created by federal law, funded by federal monies, and equipped by the US Army, that the states get to use for certain things - it is an Army reserve organization that can be commanded by the governor, and taken away for service as the federal government sees fit.

    It is legally and conceptually seperate from the actual militias of the states, those created by state laws, and equpped and trained by the states.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    No. I'm not the type.

    Do you know why Texas doesn't fall into the Gulf of Mexico?
    Mexico blows?

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Sorry to side track the thread but you started it with that nonsense.

    The use or not, of the term "teabagger/bagger" seems directly proportional to the subject matter and not to your "anti-vulgar" campaign hypocrisy. Unless you'd like to prove causation.

    Your fail is laughable. I use the "teabagee" response directly to people like you and your vulgar mouths....


    What are you going to do about it? Cry and call me a racist?




    Nope, just madness.

    You may now return to the ridiculous topic.



    You forgot to play the race card, brother! :
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