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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Well, I -did- read somewhere that a well-regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state.
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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Sounds rather idiotic but I kind of want to wait and see what it is. From the sounds of it I wonder if it'll end up being more like a National Guard type thing, simply localized to the state.

    If that's the case, strangely enough, I'd rather like it. I know one of the issues with katrina and others was National Guard members being deployed. Having a force focused simply in the state that is able to give aid to emergency situations but is not bound to the federal government would assure that emergency response for the state could be possible.

    The language in this seems rather inflamatory, especially since "militia" in recent times has been something that conjures images of backwoods rednecks stock piling guns and thinking they're Green Beret's. However that's hardly the only definition of militia and with this going officially through the state I'd be willing to hold off judgement until we can see more information that's not simply broad strokes and stereotyped words.
    The National Guard does not have infantry, so it makes sense for citizens to want to form infantry units outside of the National Guard.
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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No! I already told you, robbery is defined as a violent crime. This is the FBI's stats here. That doesn't even count burglaries. You're trying to make all these definitions to obscure the fact that you're called for something to stop 200 deaths a year, but in the end can endanger 100,000's instead.

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    The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines robbery as the taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.
    I have to concede this point to you. I reviewed the FBI stats and the number is much larger.

    However, the other part of the discussion involved how much it helped. As I understand it, and I welcome any correction, most home invasions come from someone knocking on the door and the resident opening the door. If this is true, having a gun laying around loaded doesn't seem to be as effective as simply not opening the door until you know who it is.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have to concede this point to you. I reviewed the FBI stats and the number is much larger.

    However, the other part of the discussion involved how much it helped. As I understand it, and I welcome any correction, most home invasions come from someone knocking on the door and the resident opening the door. If this is true, having a gun laying around loaded doesn't seem to be as effective as simply not opening the door until you know who it is.
    Whoever is leaving a loaded firearm "lay around" is braking the law to begin with.

    Keep it on your hip.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Whoever is leaving a loaded firearm "lay around" is braking the law to begin with.

    Keep it on your hip.
    Well, that is what we're talking about. Weapons at the bed side table for example. Saying that you can't properly store them, safe and / or trigger locks and be safe. I would argue the responsible gun owner is not really the problem. It is the one who leaves it laying around loaded with kids in the house.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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