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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    The problem with your specious argument is that the Shrubbery cut taxes for everyone but who actually benefited from those cuts?
    Everyone.
    The cuts were surely by political design in that they could claim everyone gets a cut but only the rich actually benefited.
    No... the tax cuts were for everyone, and everyone actuallly benefitted.
    If you don't understand how that works let me know and I'll spell it out for you.
    What I do not understand is how GWB cutting taxes for the middle class was a useless effort that benefitted no one, but The Obama retaining those same tax cuts is worthwhile as they benefit everyone.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    What's your point?
    That there is a clear and distinct legal and technical difference between an assault rifle and an 'assault weapon'.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    The problem with your specious argument is that the Shrubbery cut taxes for everyone but who actually benefited from those cuts?
    The middle class and those people who had jobs because the higher tax brackets had more money to invest in labour?

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    GWB cut taxes for everyone that paid taxes.
    The Obama is continuing GWB's middle-class tax cuts; The Obama did not cut taxes for everyone, and raised taxes on some.
    Obama did cut taxes for 98% of working families. Those were separate from Bush's tax cuts
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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Everyone.

    No... the tax cuts were for everyone, and everyone actuallly benefitted.
    You're right, everyone who got a tax cut benefited. What I meant was who benefited most?

    And yes it was a political move, otherwise it would not have been an "across the board" cut.

    What I do not understand is how GWB cutting taxes for the middle class was a useless effort that benefitted no one, but The Obama retaining those same tax cuts is worthwhile as they benefit everyone.
    Obviously you don't understand. Retaining the cuts for 98% of Americans simply means they aren't getting a tax increase. It was useless under the Shrub because it was a token cut on 98% but a hefty cut for the ridiculously rich.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The middle class and those people who had jobs because the higher tax brackets had more money to invest in labour?
    How'd that work out? Not so good eh? Don't worry, I'm not going to ridicule you for continuing to believe in trickle down economics even though the proof that it doesn't work is all around us.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    How'd that work out? Not so good eh? Don't worry, I'm not going to ridicule you for continuing to believe in trickle down economics even though the proof that it doesn't work is all around us.
    There isnt any such proof, especially if you mean the recent and current economic slump - that there is currently an economic downturn in no way means that the previous tax cuts did not help inprove the economy prior to said downturn.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    You're right, everyone who got a tax cut benefited. What I meant was who benefited most?
    Irrelevant -- everyone, contrary to the claims at the time, still repeated here, benefitted.

    Obviously you don't understand. Retaining the cuts for 98% of Americans simply means they aren't getting a tax increase. It was useless under the Shrub because it was a token cut on 98% but a hefty cut for the ridiculously rich.
    If GWBs tax cut was 'token' and effectively meaningless to the middle class, why retain it?

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There isnt any such proof, especially if you mean the recent and current economic slump - that there is currently an economic downturn in no way means that the previous tax cuts did not help inprove the economy prior to said downturn.
    The proof is the last 29 years and the effects can be seen all around us in the form of bubbles and recessions and a crumbling infrastructure.

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    Re: Oklahoma Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Irrelevant -- everyone, contrary to the claims at the time, still repeated here, benefitted.
    It's only irrelevant if you're looking for a way out of the hole you're digging.

    If GWBs tax cut was 'token' and effectively meaningless to the middle class, why retain it?
    Politics you numbskull. It doesn't do anything to keep the token cuts but it would mean a lot to remove them... even though both actions are actually meaningless.

    Your problem here is that you think I'm an Obama supporter when actually I'm just against the stupid arguments the rightwing makes against him.

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