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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Let me ask you a question......If gay marriage is so popular why do over 30 states have constitutional amendments against it and why did over 80 senators and Clinton sign a federal DOMA defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman?
    First NP, almost that same amount of states had constitutional amendments against interracial marriages when Loving v Virginia was decided.

    Second, DOMA was signed almost 20 years ago. Both former President Clinton and former US Rep. Bob Barr, the original sponsor of DOMA, support repealing DOMA now.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I disagree. If it is only decided in the courts then it will look like it was imposed on the people. That is what social conservatives want.
    We should let the far right, or left, decide everything?
    We imposed freedom for slaves on the people. We imposed integration on the people.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....but the Supreme Court has already found that the right to marry is a fundamental right. Loving v. Virginia.
    Why does the left always trot this case out and dishonestly pretend it speaks to homosexuality?

    This was about denying marriage based on race not alternative lifestyles, period.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First NP, almost that same amount of states had constitutional amendments against interracial marriages when Loving v Virginia was decided.

    Second, DOMA was signed almost 20 years ago. Both former President Clinton and former US Rep. Bob Barr, the original sponsor of DOMA, support repealing DOMA now.
    Race and homosexuality are not equal to each other. Your comparison is dishonest to say the least.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Why does the left always trot this case out and dishonestly pretend it speaks to homosexuality?

    This was about denying marriage based on race not alternative lifestyles, period.
    Race aside, the courts still decided that marriage was a fundamental right in that case. So when the right trots out that marriage is not a right, expect the left to counter with it.
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Race and homosexuality are not equal to each other. Your comparison is dishonest to say the least.
    They are not the same thing, but they should be equally protected against discrimination. Homosexuality does no harm to anyone or anyone's property.

    Why do you believe that homosexuality should not be protected the same as race?
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I said nothing about the 2nd amendment. Whose post are you referring to?
    MOST Americans who support the 2nd feel no need to go around armed.
    I have 4 guns in my house and one iss a 38 police special loaded on my night stand for protection..........I don't go around armed except to go to the range to shoot..........
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I have 4 guns in my house and one iss a 38 police special loaded on my night stand for protection..........I don't go around armed except to go to the range to shoot..........
    Protection from who? Pro-abortionists? ACLU members?


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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Protection from who? Pro-abortionists? ACLU members?
    Shhh...the gays!
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    Re: Gay Marriage Fails to get on California Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First NP, almost that same amount of states had constitutional amendments against interracial marriages when Loving v Virginia was decided.

    Second, DOMA was signed almost 20 years ago. Both former President Clinton and former US Rep. Bob Barr, the original sponsor of DOMA, support repealing DOMA now.
    Well since neither one of them are in office I won't worry to much about it.........Its easy to have and opinion like that when you don't have to get votes.....Even your boy Obama is against Gay Marriage.....He unlike the 2 people you mentioned might need votes....Is he a liar?

    So your saying after Loving V Virginia all those states just changed their mind.........can you give me a link on those states.........I was voting during those days and don't remember that and most people I know had to problem with the races being integrated...Nothing like there is against gay marriage........

    I heard there are going to be more states with constitutional amendments on the ballot in Nov.....stay tuned..........
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