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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This President went out of his way to push ideas from the opposing party. He went out of his way to invite key opposition leadership to help draft bills. He struck for compromise on controversial issues that his base didnít wish. People railed against him only helping the rich, but he didnít. They scream about ďliesĒ concerning linking Iraq directly to the 9/11 attacks, yet it was only those making ignorant assumptions out of hatred that ever heard such stated links. They worried about dictatorial powers and detention centers and covert arrest of political opponents, yet here we stand with a new President. He was the most mainstream President since Eisenhower.

    If you couldnít guess at the top, you should by the bottom. Talking about Bush. You knowÖPrescription drug, No Child Left Behind, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

    Itís amazing how you can cherry pick certain details and focus on the treeís rather than the forest and claim things. Doesnít make your assertion any more true in reality however.
    Kinda like the story in the OP. It's a small sapling in the forest. People on both sides spend so much time concentrating on the fringe people that are easy to argue against, instead of the movement in whole, which is harder. The republicans are not racists, the tea party is not filled with loonies, the democrats are not all plotting to smear any one. It's a tiny number in each case. People who focus on the loonies are generally the ones who cannot effectively argue against the real issues presented by each group, and have to find targets they can handle.
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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    I wonder how many anti-tea partiers will be out there throwing eggs, yelling racial slurs at black tea partiers (like one who is called "Uncle Tom") and beating down people?


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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Itís amazing how you can cherry pick certain details and focus on the treeís rather than the forest and claim things. Doesnít make your assertion any more true in reality however.
    Unfortunately, at least IMO, it appears that to some e.g., select TV/radio pundits, the stake in political outcomes has become so great that partisan politics has become almost a de facto "theory of everything."

    Under such a rubric, President Bush is viewed as solely and completely to blame for the recent financial crisis/severe recession, even as many seeds of the crisis predated his tenure. Today, even as a cyclical recovery, albeit a moderate one, appears to be getting underway and there have been signs that the labor market has stabilized and may be moving toward a resumption of growth, there is desperation on the part of some to deny those potential positive developments. After all, such developments could be politically inconvenient. They could rebut the "sky will fall" warnings that were made during the height of the fiscal stimulus debate creating a credibility crisis for those who made such predictions. They could have an impact on the electoral landscape.

    In reality, some policy errors by President Bush and his Administration played a role. But many other factors prior to his Administration and beyond his control were responsible. With respect to the fiscal stimulus, one could have argued against it without prophesying doom and gloom e.g., a more nuanced argument about whether the taking on of additional debt in the context of a structural budget situation that needs to be addressed entailed short term benefit at larger long-term cost could have been made.

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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    So now the Tea Party movement and its backers on these boards are building the "we have been infiltrated" defense so that their own members can attack and shout "bad" things at people on the other side without being called for it.

    Its not like the Tea Party movement needs infiltrating since it is made of in part of crackpots and loonies..
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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    You're absolutely right Pete. People on this board have infilitrated the AP as a devious conspiracy to be able to publish a story about another board member who is posing as an activist and started a phony website all so that they could come back to DP and use it to lay the groundwork for a "we've been infiltrated" defense.


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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So now the Tea Party movement and its backers on these boards are building the "we have been infiltrated" defense so that their own members can attack and shout "bad" things at people on the other side without being called for it.

    Its not like the Tea Party movement needs infiltrating since it is made of in part of crackpots and loonies..
    Cmon Pete, you can't defend this, Did you, or did you not read, the AP article?

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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So now the Tea Party movement and its backers on these boards are building the "we have been infiltrated" defense so that their own members can attack and shout "bad" things at people on the other side without being called for it.

    Its not like the Tea Party movement needs infiltrating since it is made of in part of crackpots and loonies..
    And a Tea Partier beat up Kenneth Gladney in St. Louis, the man bit off his OWN finger and Tea Partiers threw eggs at their own bus.

    Uh huh.


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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    And a Tea Partier beat up Kenneth Gladney in St. Louis, the man bit off his OWN finger and Tea Partiers threw eggs at their own bus.

    Uh huh.
    Give me a break. You seriously saying that the Tea Party movement is snow white and has done nothing wrong at all since it came about?

    After the failed attempt to deflect the N word being called of a US congressman , then I have no doubt that the Tea Party movement will do anything what so ever to find excuses for the actions of their members or sympathizers. The Tea Party is getting more and more radical with death threats, attacks and soon I betcha ... murder.

    But we all know what kind of people are among the Tea Party... everything from out right factist, racists,to neo nazies and anarchists. I am not saying that everyone or even a majority are this radical, but you can not deny that they are there or trying to "cuddle up" with the Tea Party movement because of their similar views on certain things.

    So face it.. a "they are infiltrating us" is just another excuse for not having a good enough handle on the members or sympathizers.
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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Give me a break. You seriously saying that the Tea Party movement is snow white and has done nothing wrong at all since it came about?

    After the failed attempt to deflect the N word being called of a US congressman , then I have no doubt that the Tea Party movement will do anything what so ever to find excuses for the actions of their members or sympathizers. The Tea Party is getting more and more radical with death threats, attacks and soon I betcha ... murder.

    But we all know what kind of people are among the Tea Party... everything from out right factist, racists,to neo nazies and anarchists. I am not saying that everyone or even a majority are this radical, but you can not deny that they are there or trying to "cuddle up" with the Tea Party movement because of their similar views on certain things.

    So face it.. a "they are infiltrating us" is just another excuse for not having a good enough handle on the members or sympathizers.
    Of course I don't think they're pure as the driven snow. I never saw a video of the N word being yelled, so that hearsay. It's not just the right throwing out death threats. Right-wing talk radio hosts (including my local ones) have been recieving them since last year.

    Where is your proof that it's the right who created the "infiltrating" site?


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    Re: Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

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    Little did you know that these are actually tea partiers trying to discredit their critics by pretending to be crashers who are pretending to be tea partiers. Nobody ever suspects the triple cross!
    It stinks. It's too convenient. The domain registrant's information is bogus. Entry onto the site is made when you click "Are you a Capitalist or a Socialist". Huh? That's GOP fringe speak.

    I wouldn't be surprised to find it's a hoax. I could be wrong, but when something sounds to good to be true, it usually is.

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