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Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

No where in this article does Brown or one of his reps say he couldn't make the event because of Sarah Palin. With less than 2 years to do a good job for the people of Massachusetts, isn't it possible that Senator Brown is simply too busy working at this time?


Is this your senator, Chuck? After I read the article I searched out a few more.

I never heard of him but this guy sounds good from the little I read.

:2wave:
 
Is this your senator, Chuck? After I read the article I searched out a few more.

I never heard of him but this guy sounds good from the little I read.

:2wave:

How did you not hear about this man? He must have made national news for a month. Lord knows he was talked about more on national news than he was here in Boston.
 
It's even a bigger fallacy that it is a "grass roots" movement, IMO. Some folks just refuse to look behind the curtain to see who the real wizard is.
Really? Why don't you enlighten us?
 
How did you not hear about this man? He must have made national news for a month. Lord knows he was talked about more on national news than he was here in Boston.



My ears were plugged? :confused:


I'm telling you I'd like more. If you've got it, dish it.


:doh
 
i'll tell you what else is interesting

on this topic

the KEYSTONE STATE, pennsylvania

now, that'd be one BRIGHT RED prize!

i mean, ever since reagan, y'know, a guy like me looks at a place like pennsylvania...

it's often so close, y'know

people like me routinely get their hopes up

ie, suckers

cuz the big southeast corridor, the philly and suburbs, you just know they'll deliver whatever it takes, y'know, in the end

pennsylvania, the quaker state is, to people like me, TOTAL TEASE

do NOT get your hopes up, she aint a comin

same with JERSEY---a lotta tease, but untouchable terrain when the ultimate is tallied

but all that's CHANGED

you can SEE it, HEAR it, TOUCH it, FEEL it, loud, hot, big and bright

and it's REAL in PLACES like PENNSYLVANIA

corbett leads for harrisburg by up to THIRTY

margins like that are not made up in politics

but my point, my reason for contributing, here:

PAT TOOMEY

the former congressman and current president of the CLUB FOR GROWTH (LOL!) has regularly led BENEDICT ARLEN by between 5 and 10, or so

which is all cool enough

EXCEPT---mr toomey is a LIPTON LOVER

LOL!

OPENLY!

IN THE KEYSTONE STATE!!!

DO YOU GET IT?!

DO YOU PERCEIVE THE MEANING?

because, really, all CAP LOCKS aside, that is a stunning reality

a tea party republican leading ANYONE, let alone an incumbant traitor to all principles, for SENATOR

in PENNSYLVANIA

RealClearPolitics - 2010 Pennsylvania Senate Race

OPPOSITION TO OBAMA IS THAT DIVERSE AND MANY COLORED

isn't it exciting!
 
My ears were plugged? :confused:


I'm telling you I'd like more. If you've got it, dish it.


:doh

I didn't mean for that to sound rude if it did I apologize. Typing with a broken hand is painful and makes me cranky.

He will be an interesting person to watch that is for sure. He ran as a Republican, but in reality I would say he is more of a centrist this far. He is certainly a breath of fresh air here in MA.
 
Typing with a broken hand is painful and makes me cranky.

You're forgiven. Going without sex will make anyone cranky. :rofl
 
Well, with a broken hand, I'm sure you will be more than ready for her return.
 
I have long said that it wasn't so much the GOP message that Americans weren't buying. It was their messengers and methods of delivering said message. Next, they need to get a message that doesn't sound like a pundit pointed sound byte.

The extremos on the far right, who seem to get all the press these days, are NOT very well liked no matter what they tell themselves. The GOP need's to cut 'em loose. The trick is to not lose the votes of the whackos they DO alienate. It will be a very tricky balancing act. For without the whacko vote, they won't stand a chance either.

That is precisely why the GOP is in so much trouble. They embraced the whackos during health care only to hang the earlier referenced albatross around their neck. They know they can't offend these people lest they split tickets with them and end up in a replay of Perot '92.

A very sticky wicket, eh?
 
That is precisely why the GOP is in so much trouble. They embraced the whackos during health care only to hang the earlier referenced albatross around their neck. They know they can't offend these people lest they split tickets with them and end up in a replay of Perot '92.

A very sticky wicket, eh?

I see Gina wore her thinking cap to class today. :2wave:

Exactly right.

(I think. I really don't know what a sticky wicket is, but I'm still sure you're right. :3oops:)
 
I see Gina wore her thinking cap to class today. :2wave:

Exactly right.

(I think. I really don't know what a sticky wicket is, but I'm still sure you're right. :3oops:)

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_wicket]Sticky wicket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] :)

It's a difficult situation. :)
 
That's cricket talk. I get it now.

Kinda like a 'hot box" (or squeeze play) in baseball. THAT I can understand. Difficult situation fo' sho!!


Indeed! *thumbs up* :)

The similarities between 92 and 10 are many. Perot really screwed the pooch for the GOP back in the day.
 
Indeed! *thumbs up* :)

The similarities between 92 and 10 are many. Perot really screwed the pooch for the GOP back in the day.

I have long thought, and have documented the thought here at DP, that the Tea Party movement was something set-up by GOP interests to seperate themselves, as a party, from the embarassment of people out there on the outer perimeter, just long enough to get back in the good graces of mainstream America. But, in the end-game, the TP'ers will "suddenly" dissolve and throw their weight behind the GOP.

Otherwise, why would GOP heavy hitter's be seen at the TP knowing that, the Tea Party, as an independant, "grass roots" :roll: party, would only split the GOP vote?

It's as obvious as the nose on one's face if you ask me.
 
I got news for ya' - The Tea Partiers are no more mainstream than Code Pink is. They are only the opposite extreme.
You have yet to describe what mainstream is.
 
I got news for ya' - The Tea Partiers are no more mainstream than Code Pink is. They are only the opposite extreme.

That is an absolutely absurd statement. Maybe you can tell that to my grandfather or my friend's mother, who are both involved with the "tea party" movement. I mean, they are just such extremists!

:roll:
 
That is an absolutely absurd statement. Maybe you can tell that to my grandfather or my friend's mother, who are both involved with the "tea party" movement. I mean, they are just such extremists!

:roll:

Is your grandfather protesting his Medicare?
 
The teabaggers can crow all they want, but it was independents and moderates who will swing every major election.

The moderates elected Brown. Not the the fringe nitwits and teabagging morons.

How about before insulting an entire movement as "morons" you should actually make sure you say something intelligent. Helps if you way it in a way that isn't exceedingly childish as well. Will always help your case.

Yes, Indepdents and Moderates tend to swing elections. Thank you. Shall you tell us next that the sun rises and sets every day? What you're saying is not some great revelation, nor something Tea Partiers for the most part don't know. HOWEVER, the only way Indepdents and Moderates can "swing elections" is if the politician actually pulls in a substantial amount of their base and that their base is significantly motivated to get out and vote. Disregard and take your base for granted and Independents won't swing anything.

Furthermore your own statements shows why you're opinion on this is the only thing "moronic". Just around 40% of the Tea Party movement is made up of "Independent" voters and those other than Republicans. The notions of "ignore the tea parties" and "go for Independents" are not exclusive but, on the contrary, able to exist together based on the very make up of the tea parties.

Now I may be crazy here but I'm pretty sure Brown got a substantial amount of the conservative base in mass, what base there is. I'm pretty sure that if he didn't have those base votes and simply got independents and moderates he would've gotten beat. So no, I'd say it was republicans, independents, and moderates that elected Scott Brown.
 
Only empty headed Obama worshipers call the mainstream grass roots Tea Party members disparaging names.

Some can pretend and claim they are intelligent till the cows come home but it won't change them from being a dumb asses who in fact know nothing about what the try but fail to talk about with any clear knowledge of the facts.
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Ah, another poster against silly name calling.....lol
 
I have long thought, and have documented the thought here at DP, that the Tea Party movement was something set-up by GOP interests to seperate themselves, as a party, from the embarassment of people out there on the outer perimeter, just long enough to get back in the good graces of mainstream America. But, in the end-game, the TP'ers will "suddenly" dissolve and throw their weight behind the GOP.

Otherwise, why would GOP heavy hitter's be seen at the TP knowing that, the Tea Party, as an independant, "grass roots" :roll: party, would only split the GOP vote?

It's as obvious as the nose on one's face if you ask me.

I'm not sure what you are driving at in the bolded text. The GOP needed separation from the embarrassment of outer perimeter? Until the TP, I always thought that as a party, the GOP stood separate from the loons already. It's the mainstream face of Republicanism already.

I do get the rest of what you are postulating, just that I see it as a way for the GOP to incorporate the fringe, keeping the mainstream party separate, to ride a wave of populist outrage that could sweep the middle/independents along with them. Then they could "suddenly" dissolve leaving the majority of the movement to vote GOP.

There is some evidence to support that theory. For instance, I believe there has been some astro-turfing. It's a little more than convenient that some Tea Party domaines were setup on the internet before the "organic" progression of the movement made a national appearance. It's a possibility.

I have missed your posts on the subject.
 
The Tea Party Code Pink cooment was idiotic. Come on now Dana. Hell, even just taking unscientific DP,i don't remember a single member who claimed to be a member of Code Pink or participated in their rallies. There are dozens of posters that do and have with Tea Parties.
 
How about before insulting an entire movement as "morons" you should actually make sure you say something intelligent. Helps if you way it in a way that isn't exceedingly childish as well. Will always help your case.

Yes, Indepdents and Moderates tend to swing elections. Thank you. Shall you tell us next that the sun rises and sets every day? What you're saying is not some great revelation, nor something Tea Partiers for the most part don't know. HOWEVER, the only way Indepdents and Moderates can "swing elections" is if the politician actually pulls in a substantial amount of their base and that their base is significantly motivated to get out and vote. Disregard and take your base for granted and Independents won't swing anything.

Furthermore your own statements shows why you're opinion on this is the only thing "moronic". Just around 40% of the Tea Party movement is made up of "Independent" voters and those other than Republicans. The notions of "ignore the tea parties" and "go for Independents" are not exclusive but, on the contrary, able to exist together based on the very make up of the tea parties.

Now I may be crazy here but I'm pretty sure Brown got a substantial amount of the conservative base in mass, what base there is. I'm pretty sure that if he didn't have those base votes and simply got independents and moderates he would've gotten beat. So no, I'd say it was republicans, independents, and moderates that elected Scott Brown.

1) I disagree. It was Brown's pragmatism and policies that got him elected. Without that, he never would have gotten the independents and moderates.

2)
Just around 40% of the Tea Party movement is made up of "Independent" voters and those other than Republicans.

Could have fooled me. I saw a Tea Party rally in Houston earlier in the year, and I saw it in person at Memorial Park. There were at least 200 people there, and there could have been more. I did not see a single sign at that rally that didn't question Obama's citizenship, or his being a Communist or a Nazi, or executing the elderly with death panels, or being anti-American, or hating the troops. I even saw one sign that had a map of Africa, and the caption read "Obama Go Home". There were more signs that promoted Texas seceding from the Union, and recreating the Republic of Texas. You want to tell me what is moderate, or independent, about any of this? There was even a small group of about half a dozen people wearing KKK sheets, but they were told to leave. I will give the Tea Partiers credit for that. But, after what I saw, I just don't see how some people can call this mainstream at all. From what I saw, I can repeat with confidence that the Tea Partiers are the same as Code Pink, only they are on the opposite side of the spectrum. At least that is how they looked in Houston. I can't speak for places like NYC, Boston, Atlanta, or other major cities, though. Someone else will have to do that. But, here in Houston, they are a very radical and extremist bunch.
 
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