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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Loin View Post
    Continued thanks to the usual DP "server too busy" at 2AM thingy............meant to edit out the word racist, as you did not level that irrational aspersion. That was so many others at DP, my bad.

    BTW Danny, what was the date of that Tea Party you attended at Memorial Park? Just curious..............

    Meanwhile, looky looky at all the signs from the birthers! The "Nazi" and "communist" signs! The execute the elderly with death panel signs! The succeed from the union signs! They were so prevalent that they obscured all others! Jesus Dan, way to lower your intellectual capital. Deservedly so too............

    YouTube- Houston Tea Party

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    Oh my GOD! Is that....GASP....a black Tea Partier?? WTF? What a racist!! Oh MY GOD, look someone is holding up a..........Atlas Shrugged sign!! OMFG!!

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    Just look at that black racist spouting racist hatred.................such a typical tea party member!

    Danarhea, you sir are festooned with dung.
    It appears he's against anything conservative.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It appears he's against anything conservative.
    If you believe that passing laws to regulate morality is Conservative, then I would like you to share some of what you are smoking with me. Conservative is many things, but it is not government intervention. Many who call themselves Conservatives (while having the gall to call other people fake Conservatives) are fake Conservatives themselves.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    well put

    conservatives really need to stop fighting amongst themselves until AFTER they have WON something to FIGHT OVER

    to dispute now is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE

    it's also MOOT

    all opponents of the prodigiously powerful PARTY IN POWER need to concert their efforts to EMASCULATE the prodigiously powerful PARTY IN POWER

    once that BIG STUFF is taken care of, then we can stand up for some of the principles that genuinely do split us

    but not until

    really, for someone to look at american politics today and primarily see the divisions that have always been part of the right would require a microscope

    we're comparitively so small

    it would also require some kind of all consuming agenda, at times like these

    my opinion

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If you believe that passing laws to regulate morality is Conservative, then I would like you to share some of what you are smoking with me. Conservative is many things, but it is not government intervention. Many who call themselves Conservatives (while having the gall to call other people fake Conservatives) are fake Conservatives themselves.
    I'd invite you to go to the Tea Parties "contract from america" which is the closest thing to a clear and consise unified statement of the Tea Parties "platform" or goals and show me which ones are about regulating morality.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'd invite you to go to the Tea Parties "contract from America" which is the closest thing to a clear and concise unified statement of the Tea Parties "platform" or goals and show me which ones are about regulating morality.
    This is ridiculous and quite dishonest. When Republicans and by that I mean Tea Baggers - who no longer want to call themselves Republicans - want to regulate morality, they won't say it in those terms. They'll say 'limit the government'. They don't want to cut military spending or medicaid for old people, they want to cut social spending and regulate who gets married.

    Why don't we even the playing field a little bit? Find me a single prominent Republican promoting the Tea Party who isn't for regulating morality and you'll have found yourself a Republican I would vote for. Bobby Jindal maybe? Sarah Palin? Michelle Bachman? The contract from America is just a conservative fluff job pretending to be something it isn't. No different than the Newt Gringrich authored document from which it gets its name Contract with America.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is ridiculous and quite dishonest. When Republicans and by that I mean Tea Baggers - who no longer want to call themselves Republicans - want to regulate morality, they won't say it in those terms. They'll say 'limit the government'. They don't want to cut military spending or medicaid for old people, they want to cut social spending and regulate who gets married.

    Why don't we even the playing field a little bit? Find me a single prominent Republican promoting the Tea Party who isn't for regulating morality and you'll have found yourself a Republican I would vote for. Bobby Jindal maybe? Sarah Palin? Michelle Bachman? The contract from America is just a conservative fluff job pretending to be something it isn't. No different than the Newt Gringrich authored document from which it gets its name Contract with America.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is ridiculous and quite dishonest. When Republicans and by that I mean Tea Baggers - who no longer want to call themselves Republicans - want to regulate morality, they won't say it in those terms. They'll say 'limit the government'. They don't want to cut military spending or medicaid for old people, they want to cut social spending and regulate who gets married.

    Why don't we even the playing field a little bit? Find me a single prominent Republican promoting the Tea Party who isn't for regulating morality and you'll have found yourself a Republican I would vote for. Bobby Jindal maybe? Sarah Palin? Michelle Bachman? The contract from America is just a conservative fluff job pretending to be something it isn't. No different than the Newt Gringrich authored document from which it gets its name Contract with America.
    I wouldn't say that, because the Tea Party I went to was before "Contract from America". I didn't see anything there about it. So, as much as Zyph and I are bashing each other in this thread, I still have an open mind, and would be willing to check it out. If it turns out like he said, then that certainly would change my opinion of the Tea Partiers, or at least, of some of them. What turns my stomach is the crap that I have seen, but doesn't mean that there aren't some REAL grass roots Tea Partiers out there, who are protesting over real issues, such as taxation, instead of protesting over BS, such as the birthers and deathers are doing. If these groups are kicking the birthers, deathers, and the crazy name callers to the curb, and actually tackling real issues, instead of personalities, then there might be something there that I could support. I am certainly willing to take a listen.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

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    Delivered 4000 babies; & assuredly life begins at conception.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I have long thought, and have documented the thought here at DP, that the Tea Party movement was something set-up by GOP interests to seperate themselves, as a party, from the embarassment of people out there on the outer perimeter, just long enough to get back in the good graces of mainstream America. But, in the end-game, the TP'ers will "suddenly" dissolve and throw their weight behind the GOP.

    Otherwise, why would GOP heavy hitter's be seen at the TP knowing that, the Tea Party, as an independant, "grass roots" party, would only split the GOP vote?

    It's as obvious as the nose on one's face if you ask me.

    You may have been right. A PAC has treated the Tea Party as a brand and used it that way to raise money for GOP interests. The Tea Party is pretty unhappy about it too.

    “We’ve worked hard to distance ourselves from the Tea Party Express because of their close affiliation with the Republican Party, the Republican establishment and their PAC,” said Debbie Dooley, a national coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, a national umbrella group of local activists. The Patriots have supported a strict nonpartisan posture but also have struggled to raise money, and Dooley contends that’s partly because of Tea Party Express.

    “When people donate to Tea Party Express, they think that they are donating to a tea party, because they don’t read the fine print at the bottom of their e-mails that says it is a PAC,” she said. “And that hurts the local grass-roots tea party organizers, since a lot of that is actually taking some money away from them.”

    Adds Ned Ryun, president of American Majority, a nonprofit group that trains local tea party organizers: “I’m concerned that they’re using (Tea Party Express) as a marketing gimmick to line the pockets of consultants instead of actually helping the tea party movement. People are already pretty fired up, so enough protesting and rallying — they need to be empowered to go back and organize their communities.”
    Read more: GOP operatives crash the tea party - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com
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