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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) Yes, the KKK did love Ron Paul, and Ron Paul condemned them. And, as I said before, the Tea Partiers condemned the KKK'ers when they showed up too. So what? That is just a red herring you are attempting to throw out there.
    So you make it a point, even though they condemned it, to shove that mention into your post. Yet I can't remember a single time you, prompted by no one else, mentioned the KKK in any relation to Ron Paul. Because you know, even when condemning it, associating them with him would be bad. But you love to do it with the Tea Parties because even if they condemn it, them simply being there helps you paint the image you're going for.

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    You just called me a liar. I will let this one pass.
    Here, if my past two posts on this weren't clear, let me be clear. No dana. After reading posts of yours for the past few months, responding to some of them and getting no response, and seemingly just watching you at times make incredibly ignorant and exaggerated statements for seemingly no purpose that I can fathom other than driving hits to your blogs mixed with your repeated, continual, unending attacks on the Tea Party movement here my belief in the credibility of your assertion...be it an out and out lie to fit your purpose or a reality that is deeply tinted by the rose colored glasses of what you've mentally put in your mind is what Tea Partiers are...has reached an all time low.

    3) Here is the real meat of my argument. Ron Paul, in his campaign, was upbeat at all times, not trashing his opponents with lies and calling them Nazis, but telling Americans that they were capable of transforming this nation into something better. In fact, one of his slogans was "Hope for America", which the Obama campaign seemed to have conveniently stolen.
    You have got to be kidding me.

    You're telling me that Ron Paul's campaign never attacked people, trashed opponents? Oh, no "with lies", which even that is a questionable thing half the time based on opinion not fact and someone from the other side...as you stand on the other side of the Tea Partiers...would disagree greatly with the suggestion. Ron Paul and his campaign made it a pillar of their campaign to play the martyr card and the attack the other guys card and how horrible and mean everyone was for not listening to the glorious and godly Ron Paul. Yeah, they had their "sociaist" card too, it was Neo-Con and routinely thrown around more than was appropriate.

    But don't take my word for it. Ask Vauge. He and I met up at a Ron Paul rally, and he will tell you the exact same thing I just told you about him.
    That's fine. I've been to Ron Paul gatherings too. Primarily everyone there were douche bags, a number of them ludicrous fringers that thought the CFR was some global conspiracy running the world and that there was truth in the government having a hand in 9/11, and don't even go into the evils that is Israel. However my one experience, which was different than that a number of other people on this forum experienced when they interacted with Ron Paul people, didn't lead me to start going around stating that the people I saw were somehow unquestionably the norm.

    Something that's the OPPOSITE of what you're doing.

    So what is the difference between the Paul campaign and today's Tea Partiers?
    What conspiracies the fringers of it believed....and rather you spend all you time bashing them or not.

    While the Tea Partiers spend their time talking trash, those who worked on Paul's campaign worked on solutions, built solid platforms, and stayed on message.
    Oh what hogwash. What, like "Cut the department of Education" is not a solid plan, its a bull**** rhetoric slogan that over simplifies an extremely diverse issues so fools can have a sound bite to use while talking down to the "Sheeple". Ron Paul's campaign was primarily focused around ideas and theories, the same type of thing the Tea Party is focused around.

    I'll give you that the Paul campaign stayed on message more. In part because they were much smaller than the tea parties currently are and thus its easier to manage the message. However going off message is not somehow a reason to continually slander a group.

    Now you might disagree with some of what Ron Paul wanted to do, and may consider some of it "out there", but at least he was sending a positive message, and presenting a solution, rather than just talking trash.
    Nice catch phrase, though I think "talking trash" applies far more to your comments continually about the Tea Parties. Yes, Ron Paul was pushing a message of limited government, a return to the constitution, balanced budgets, reduction and fixing of our tax system, reduction of federal spending...

    Hold on, that's sounding familiar, where have I seen something Similar....

    DEMAND A BALANCE BUDGET Begin the Constitutional amendment process to
    require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax hike. 

    STOP THE TAX HIKES Permanently repeal all tax hikes, including those to the income, capital gains, and death taxes, currently scheduled to begin in 2011. 

    PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.

    ENACT FUNDAMENTAL TAX REFORM Adopt a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the internal revenue code and replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words—the length of the original Constitution. 

    END RUNAWAY GOVERNMENT SPENDING Impose a statutory cap limiting the annual growth in total federal spending to the sum of inflation rate plus the percentage of population growth.

    LET US SAVE Allow all Americans to opt out of Social Security and Medicare and instead put those same payroll taxes in a personal account they own, control, and can leave to whomever they choose. 

    GIVE PARENTS MORE CHOICES IN THE EDUCATION OF THEIR CHILDREN Improve American education by reforming the broken federal role through eliminating ineffective and wasteful programs, giving parents more choices from pre-school to high school, and improving the affordability of higher education. 

    PROTECT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS Block state and local governments that receive federal grants from exercising eminent domain over private property for the primary purpose of economic development or enhancement of tax revenues.

    STOP THE PORK Place a moratorium on all earmarks until the process is fully transparent, including requiring a 2/3 majority to pass any earmark. 

    AUDIT THE FED Begin an audit of the Federal Reserve System.

    Those bastard racist evil Tea Partiers, shoving down that entirely unconservative, social focused, antithema to Ron Paul platform....they ****ing suck.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    First he seemed like the Palin-like crazies, but I'm starting to like him. If he distances himself from the tea-party protesters and Palin, he has a good chance of making a name for himself.


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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    First he seemed like the Palin-like crazies, but I'm starting to like him. If he distances himself from the tea-party protesters and Palin, he has a good chance of making a name for himself.
    I don't think he should want to distance himself from the Tea Party message though. I will go tomorrow just to see how much different it will be from the POS two I was at when I went back home.

    I do think it is smart to distance himself from Palin it will be a good thing. She won't help his message.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    First he seemed like the Palin-like crazies, but I'm starting to like him. If he distances himself from the tea-party protesters and Palin, he has a good chance of making a name for himself.

    I still don't know a lot about him but I'm encouraged from the little I've heard. I'd just like to see politics move away from the ugliness that's permeated it for so long. I got whipped up into it prior to the 2008 election and I think it burnt me out. Now I find that I'm at a place where I've tuned out of politics a lot because of it.

    I'm not interested in the party of no anymore than I am in hearing about real America.

    I want to hear ideas and solutions from these ducks.




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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    First he seemed like the Palin-like crazies, but I'm starting to like him. If he distances himself from the tea-party protesters and Palin, he has a good chance of making a name for himself.
    Ron Paul actually believes in the principles that the T-partiers claim they believe in and mouth off about. Paul also materially believes in the principles that Palin just mouths as bumper sticker material.

    It is that Ron Paul has substance and the TP's and Palin show the show.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Ron Paul actually believes in the principles that the T-partiers claim they believe in and mouth off about. Paul also materially believes in the principles that Palin just mouths as bumper sticker material.

    It is that Ron Paul has substance and the TP's and Palin show the show.
    You haven't got a clue of what your talking about, or proof for your allegations.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    My grandfather isn't on Medicare; he has private health insurance and is a retired Navy veteran (he is entitled to VA care as well). He is just protesting the expansion of government, as is my friend's mother, and several other decent folks I know. None of them are racists or extremists. They are just regular people who are voicing their concern. People like Dana think they're extremists, though...
    If your Grandad is "a retired Navy veteran " he is covered by a government insurance program called TRICARE as all of us retired military people are. The predecessor of TRICARE was CHAMPUS. In the event that you Grandad is not tuned into his benefits he needs to contact the DOD and get registered for TRICARE. Your Grandad can use TRICARE as a secondary carrier if he has his private insurance as I do. I see no need to use TRICARE as a prmary at this time since I can afford my private insuarnce. Yet it is there for THOSE WHO NEED IT. - retired military that is and dependents!!

    ps don't let the TP's fool you or scare you about TRICARE. TRICARE is not socialist it is for military, retired military, dependents !!! and we ARE NOT SOCIALISTS no matter what some liars or confused people say !!!
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You haven't got a clue of what your talking about, or proof for your allegations.
    What allegation !!! my words are facts !!! read them and learn !!! I need not show proof since the truth is on my side !! lol
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) Yes, the KKK did love Ron Paul, and Ron Paul condemned them. And, as I said before, the Tea Partiers condemned the KKK'ers when they showed up too. So what? That is just a red herring you are attempting to throw out there.

    2)

    You just called me a liar. I will let this one pass.

    3) Here is the real meat of my argument. Ron Paul, in his campaign, was upbeat at all times, not trashing his opponents with lies and calling them Nazis, but telling Americans that they were capable of transforming this nation into something better. In fact, one of his slogans was "Hope for America", which the Obama campaign seemed to have conveniently stolen.

    But don't take my word for it. Ask Vague. He and I met up at a Ron Paul rally, and he will tell you the exact same thing I just told you about him.

    So what is the difference between the Paul campaign and today's Tea Partiers? While the Tea Partiers spend their time talking trash, those who worked on Paul's campaign worked on solutions, built solid platforms, and stayed on message. Now you might disagree with some of what Ron Paul wanted to do, and may consider some of it "out there", but at least he was sending a positive message, and presenting a solution, rather than just talking trash.
    Yes let us do ask Vague. Surely he will support your prior assertion that you saw nothing but racist signs etc, etc and other sophistry Danny. Nothing but, in your words:
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Could have fooled me. I saw a Tea Party rally in Houston earlier in the year, and I saw it in person at Memorial Park. There were at least 200 people there, and there could have been more. I did not see a single sign at that rally that didn't question Obama's citizenship, or his being a Communist or a Nazi, or executing the elderly with death panels, or being anti-American, or hating the troops. I even saw one sign that had a map of Africa, and the caption read "Obama Go Home". There were more signs that promoted Texas seceding from the Union, and recreating the Republic of Texas. You want to tell me what is moderate, or independent, about any of this?
    Zyphlin is to be credited for making the plainly obvious call about your plainly obvious sophistry. Being a former three decade Houstonian with family and friends that attended the Memorial Park party, I plainly call you full of s@%t. As you quite honestly are. Go out on obviously creaky ill supported irrational branches and you deserve the fall you get. Just for yucks, do share with us the pictures of the "nothing but" photos from the Chronicle won't you? I mean those were not just the majority but all of signs right you managed to discern? Share with us the coverage from channels 2, 11, 13 and the lessor ones as well, the so oh so racist and hate filled events you swear you and Vague witnessed. I guess it was a Houston media conspiracy to hide it all eh? Chuckle. I say you are full of s*#t. To quote hazelnut hackery, I know it, you know it and we all know it.

    Watched a wonderful debunking of the Danny approach to the Tea Party tonight on Anderson Copper 360. Even managed to nick me a link to, shall we say, a more honest look at what really goes on at those oh so violent, racist HATE FILLED Tea Party rallies.
    Reporter's notebook: What really happens at Tea Party rallies - CNN.com

    Bad news for your type is that common sense and basic human honesty are starting to creep into the spin people like you (and others) are trying so desperately to pretend at. To what profitable end, I can't imagine. Naked bias on display IMO. God knows you don't have common sense, intellectual honesty and integrity on your side here sir. Oh I'm certain you could care less, but I've been here a while and Zep is right, pretty frakin pathetic of you all the way around. Actual HACK material. Shame shame shame on you.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Continued thanks to the usual DP "server too busy" at 2AM thingy............meant to edit out the word racist, as you did not level that irrational aspersion. That was so many others at DP, my bad.

    BTW Danny, what was the date of that Tea Party you attended at Memorial Park? Just curious..............

    Meanwhile, looky looky at all the signs from the birthers! The "Nazi" and "communist" signs! The execute the elderly with death panel signs! The succeed from the union signs! They were so prevalent that they obscured all others! Jesus Dan, way to lower your intellectual capital. Deservedly so too............

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CicPhKGmqkg&feature=related"]YouTube- Houston Tea Party[/nomedia]

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwuCArp4vc8&feature=related"]YouTube- Houston Tea Party Crowd Scan[/nomedia]

    Oh my GOD! Is that....GASP....a black Tea Partier?? WTF? What a racist!! Oh MY GOD, look someone is holding up a..........Atlas Shrugged sign!! OMFG!!

    Chuckle.
    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdWL8pjo6I"]YouTube- Houston Tea Party, February 27, 2009[/nomedia]

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NikQ4c67JOw"]YouTube- Interview with a voter. Tea Party, Houston, TX, 4/15/09[/nomedia]

    Just look at that black racist spouting racist hatred.................such a typical tea party member!

    Danarhea, you sir are festooned with dung.
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