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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

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    1) I disagree. It was Brown's pragmatism and policies that got him elected. Without that, he never would have gotten the independents and moderates.
    I thought it was because Coakley ran one of the wort campaigns in modern history. I mean she made Gary Hart in 84 look like a clerver campaigner.

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    Could have fooled me. I saw a Tea Party rally in Houston earlier in the year, and I saw it in person at Memorial Park. There were at least 200 people there, and there could have been more. I did not see a single sign at that rally that didn't question Obama's citizenship, or his being a Communist or a Nazi, or executing the elderly with death panels, or being anti-American, or hating the troops. I even saw one sign that had a map of Africa, and the caption read "Obama Go Home". There were more signs that promoted Texas seceding from the Union, and recreating the Republic of Texas. You want to tell me what is moderate, or independent, about any of this? There was even a small group of about half a dozen people wearing KKK sheets, but they were told to leave. I will give the Tea Partiers credit for that. But, after what I saw, I just don't see how some people can call this mainstream at all. From what I saw, I can repeat with confidence that the Tea Partiers are the same as Code Pink, only they are on the opposite side of the spectrum. At least that is how they looked in Houston. I can't speak for places like NYC, Boston, Atlanta, or other major cities, though. Someone else will have to do that. But, here in Houston, they are a very radical and extremist bunch.
    Texas though.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

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    I thought it was because Coakley ran one of the wort campaigns in modern history. I mean she made Gary Hart in 84 look like a clerver campaigner.
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) I disagree. It was Brown's pragmatism and policies that got him elected. Without that, he never would have gotten the independents and moderates.
    I think it was both and then some.

    1) I think he hit a raw nerve when he declared he would vote against the HC bill as it's written now.

    2) His campaign gained some serious momentum when he said the seat for which he was running wasn't Ted Kennedy's seat, it was the peoples' seat. I never got Massachusett's love affair with old Ted, and I suspect most of them didn't either. He was a star who's family suffered mightily while serving the US. I don't think Mass is as much liberal is it is (was) star struck.

    3) Scott Brown is freaking likeable.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

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    I thought it was because Coakley ran one of the wort campaigns in modern history. I mean she made Gary Hart in 84 look like a clerver campaigner.



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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) I disagree. It was Brown's pragmatism and policies that got him elected. Without that, he never would have gotten the independents and moderates.
    Which somehow disproves that he needed, and got, the Republican vote in good turn out...how?

    If Brown didn't win over his base it wouldn't have mattered that he got independents and moderates, he still likely would've lost. It was his ability to attract not just Independents and moderates but also the base of the Republican Party in mass that allowed him to put together a coalition to win. Take any of those segments out and he loses. So trying to act like the Independents were more important than the Republicans for him to win is ridiculous as his success hinged on both of those groupings.

    2) Could have fooled me
    Well of course it could've fooled you. You've done nothing but bash, slander, and attack the Tea Parties on this forum since the moment Ron Paul was no longer at the front of them. You've repeatedly made asanine and idiotic statements throughout this forum, often times refusing to actually back them up once they were called upon, wholey and completely negative to the Tea Parties. You've made such outlandish claims, half the time it seems with no purpose in the past but to pump up the hits to your blog site, that frankly your claims of what you "saw" and the amount of the benefit of the doubt I give you for the honesty of it has dwindled to an all time low. You've bought into the propoganda and the popular presentation of the Tea Parties 100% and its been shown time and time again it doesn't matter to you what anyone else says. You claim to have that horrible experience, yet multiple members have came out saying they've never seen anything even close to resembling that at their parts...but obviously they're lying political hacks that dare to embrace a movement that is focused primarily, first and foremost, around fiscal cosnervatism.

    But then, if the Republicans actually start latching onto their old traditional views or libertarian leanings what the hell will Dana have to bitch, whine, complain, and scream about the establishment he so disdains and so disenfranchises him.

    ...well, I guess you'll still those horrible evil gay people you gleefully pontificate on so often.

    I just find it funny, when the Tea Parties were first starting up and were under the Ron Paul wing of things and it stll contained the fringe nutballs but the ones going on about the evil world conspiracy of the CFR or how Bush perpetrated 9/11 or secret government interment camps we'll be sent to by use of the Patriot Act I never remembered you coming out, calling them names, talking about the kooks, comparing them to code Pink. Guess you only dislike certain types of fringe idiotic conspiracy theorists.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Coakley ran an attrocious campaign, which I think helped him greatly in getting independents. Seriously, you can't think a World Series Winning Red Sox pitcher is a Yankee and win that state

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    maybe not

    but you can sure accidentally kill a girl drunk driving and leave her for dead while you go off to establish some bogus alibi and not only get elected, but re-elected and re-elected until you achieve LION status

    in that state

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Which somehow disproves that he needed, and got, the Republican vote in good turn out...how?

    If Brown didn't win over his base it wouldn't have mattered that he got independents and moderates, he still likely would've lost. It was his ability to attract not just Independents and moderates but also the base of the Republican Party in mass that allowed him to put together a coalition to win. Take any of those segments out and he loses. So trying to act like the Independents were more important than the Republicans for him to win is ridiculous as his success hinged on both of those groupings.



    Well of course it could've fooled you. You've done nothing but bash, slander, and attack the Tea Parties on this forum since the moment Ron Paul was no longer at the front of them. You've repeatedly made asanine and idiotic statements throughout this forum, often times refusing to actually back them up once they were called upon, wholey and completely negative to the Tea Parties. You've made such outlandish claims, half the time it seems with no purpose in the past but to pump up the hits to your blog site, that frankly your claims of what you "saw" and the amount of the benefit of the doubt I give you for the honesty of it has dwindled to an all time low. You've bought into the propoganda and the popular presentation of the Tea Parties 100% and its been shown time and time again it doesn't matter to you what anyone else says. You claim to have that horrible experience, yet multiple members have came out saying they've never seen anything even close to resembling that at their parts...but obviously they're lying political hacks that dare to embrace a movement that is focused primarily, first and foremost, around fiscal cosnervatism.

    But then, if the Republicans actually start latching onto their old traditional views or libertarian leanings what the hell will Dana have to bitch, whine, complain, and scream about the establishment he so disdains and so disenfranchises him.

    ...well, I guess you'll still those horrible evil gay people you gleefully pontificate on so often.

    I just find it funny, when the Tea Parties were first starting up and were under the Ron Paul wing of things and it stll contained the fringe nutballs but the ones going on about the evil world conspiracy of the CFR or how Bush perpetrated 9/11 or secret government interment camps we'll be sent to by use of the Patriot Act I never remembered you coming out, calling them names, talking about the kooks, comparing them to code Pink. Guess you only dislike certain types of fringe idiotic conspiracy theorists.
    I can only tell you what I saw with my own eyes this year. This is not the same Tea Party that existed in 2008. And, hell yes. I am going to continue to call it, not only as I see it, but how they themselves are portraying themselves. They are no different than the loonies at the other end of the spectrum.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    maybe not

    but you can sure accidentally kill a girl drunk driving and leave her for dead while you go off to establish some bogus alibi and not only get elected, but re-elected and re-elected until you achieve LION status

    in that state
    kind of like being an avowed racist and being repeatedly re-elected to the senate in north carolina
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I can only tell you what I saw with my own eyes this year. This is not the same Tea Party that existed in 2008.
    You're right. The idiotic fringe of it traded CFR, 9/11 truthers, and Fascist George Bush the Nazi alarmists for secret muslim, birthers, and socialist Barack Obama the nazi alarmists.

    And both then and now had people related to the likes of the KKK supporting it.

    Of course, you had no problems with it then. Back when the main contingent of the base was supporting it, back when Ron Paul was the main focus of it, you never said a bad word about it. That would've meant having to turn in your Ron Paul loyalist card. But now suddenly you must speak out at every mention of those horrible evil conspiracy theorist racist bigots.

    So CFR, Fascist, 9/11 inside job, Nazi, KKK is okay by Dana but Muslim, Socialist, birther, Nazi, KKK is a horrible thing that must be talked about and insulted every moment possible.

    Gotcha.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    They are no different than the loonies at the other end of the spectrum.
    Yes, my fault Dana, I forgot you only exaggerate and continually rail against the loonies that are on both ends of the spectrums. The loonies on your end of it you completely ignore, dismiss, and gloss over. Silly me.

    Didn't you go on and on sometime ago in defense of why you attack republicans so much is because that's your side and you feel you have to hold your side to a higher standard?

    Funny, because that's NOT what you do. Its a bull**** excuse coming from you. You almost never went around constantly harping on and railing about the fringe idiots of the Ron Paul campaign and the earlier tea partys and they were FAR more your side than the Republicans currently are.

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