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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I got news for ya' - The Tea Partiers are no more mainstream than Code Pink is. They are only the opposite extreme.
    You have yet to describe what mainstream is.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I got news for ya' - The Tea Partiers are no more mainstream than Code Pink is. They are only the opposite extreme.
    That is an absolutely absurd statement. Maybe you can tell that to my grandfather or my friend's mother, who are both involved with the "tea party" movement. I mean, they are just such extremists!


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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You have yet to describe what mainstream is.
    Anything he doesn't agree with, apparently.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    That is an absolutely absurd statement. Maybe you can tell that to my grandfather or my friend's mother, who are both involved with the "tea party" movement. I mean, they are just such extremists!

    Is your grandfather protesting his Medicare?

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The teabaggers can crow all they want, but it was independents and moderates who will swing every major election.

    The moderates elected Brown. Not the the fringe nitwits and teabagging morons.
    How about before insulting an entire movement as "morons" you should actually make sure you say something intelligent. Helps if you way it in a way that isn't exceedingly childish as well. Will always help your case.

    Yes, Indepdents and Moderates tend to swing elections. Thank you. Shall you tell us next that the sun rises and sets every day? What you're saying is not some great revelation, nor something Tea Partiers for the most part don't know. HOWEVER, the only way Indepdents and Moderates can "swing elections" is if the politician actually pulls in a substantial amount of their base and that their base is significantly motivated to get out and vote. Disregard and take your base for granted and Independents won't swing anything.

    Furthermore your own statements shows why you're opinion on this is the only thing "moronic". Just around 40% of the Tea Party movement is made up of "Independent" voters and those other than Republicans. The notions of "ignore the tea parties" and "go for Independents" are not exclusive but, on the contrary, able to exist together based on the very make up of the tea parties.

    Now I may be crazy here but I'm pretty sure Brown got a substantial amount of the conservative base in mass, what base there is. I'm pretty sure that if he didn't have those base votes and simply got independents and moderates he would've gotten beat. So no, I'd say it was republicans, independents, and moderates that elected Scott Brown.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Only empty headed Obama worshipers call the mainstream grass roots Tea Party members disparaging names.

    Some can pretend and claim they are intelligent till the cows come home but it won't change them from being a dumb asses who in fact know nothing about what the try but fail to talk about with any clear knowledge of the facts.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I have long thought, and have documented the thought here at DP, that the Tea Party movement was something set-up by GOP interests to seperate themselves, as a party, from the embarassment of people out there on the outer perimeter, just long enough to get back in the good graces of mainstream America. But, in the end-game, the TP'ers will "suddenly" dissolve and throw their weight behind the GOP.

    Otherwise, why would GOP heavy hitter's be seen at the TP knowing that, the Tea Party, as an independant, "grass roots" party, would only split the GOP vote?

    It's as obvious as the nose on one's face if you ask me.
    I'm not sure what you are driving at in the bolded text. The GOP needed separation from the embarrassment of outer perimeter? Until the TP, I always thought that as a party, the GOP stood separate from the loons already. It's the mainstream face of Republicanism already.

    I do get the rest of what you are postulating, just that I see it as a way for the GOP to incorporate the fringe, keeping the mainstream party separate, to ride a wave of populist outrage that could sweep the middle/independents along with them. Then they could "suddenly" dissolve leaving the majority of the movement to vote GOP.

    There is some evidence to support that theory. For instance, I believe there has been some astro-turfing. It's a little more than convenient that some Tea Party domaines were setup on the internet before the "organic" progression of the movement made a national appearance. It's a possibility.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you know this thread was about Scott Brown? It's in the title even.
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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    The Tea Party Code Pink cooment was idiotic. Come on now Dana. Hell, even just taking unscientific DP,i don't remember a single member who claimed to be a member of Code Pink or participated in their rallies. There are dozens of posters that do and have with Tea Parties.

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    Re: Scott Brown snubs Sarah Palin, bags Tea Party rally

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    How about before insulting an entire movement as "morons" you should actually make sure you say something intelligent. Helps if you way it in a way that isn't exceedingly childish as well. Will always help your case.

    Yes, Indepdents and Moderates tend to swing elections. Thank you. Shall you tell us next that the sun rises and sets every day? What you're saying is not some great revelation, nor something Tea Partiers for the most part don't know. HOWEVER, the only way Indepdents and Moderates can "swing elections" is if the politician actually pulls in a substantial amount of their base and that their base is significantly motivated to get out and vote. Disregard and take your base for granted and Independents won't swing anything.

    Furthermore your own statements shows why you're opinion on this is the only thing "moronic". Just around 40% of the Tea Party movement is made up of "Independent" voters and those other than Republicans. The notions of "ignore the tea parties" and "go for Independents" are not exclusive but, on the contrary, able to exist together based on the very make up of the tea parties.

    Now I may be crazy here but I'm pretty sure Brown got a substantial amount of the conservative base in mass, what base there is. I'm pretty sure that if he didn't have those base votes and simply got independents and moderates he would've gotten beat. So no, I'd say it was republicans, independents, and moderates that elected Scott Brown.
    1) I disagree. It was Brown's pragmatism and policies that got him elected. Without that, he never would have gotten the independents and moderates.

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    Just around 40% of the Tea Party movement is made up of "Independent" voters and those other than Republicans.
    Could have fooled me. I saw a Tea Party rally in Houston earlier in the year, and I saw it in person at Memorial Park. There were at least 200 people there, and there could have been more. I did not see a single sign at that rally that didn't question Obama's citizenship, or his being a Communist or a Nazi, or executing the elderly with death panels, or being anti-American, or hating the troops. I even saw one sign that had a map of Africa, and the caption read "Obama Go Home". There were more signs that promoted Texas seceding from the Union, and recreating the Republic of Texas. You want to tell me what is moderate, or independent, about any of this? There was even a small group of about half a dozen people wearing KKK sheets, but they were told to leave. I will give the Tea Partiers credit for that. But, after what I saw, I just don't see how some people can call this mainstream at all. From what I saw, I can repeat with confidence that the Tea Partiers are the same as Code Pink, only they are on the opposite side of the spectrum. At least that is how they looked in Houston. I can't speak for places like NYC, Boston, Atlanta, or other major cities, though. Someone else will have to do that. But, here in Houston, they are a very radical and extremist bunch.
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