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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think the military leadership DOES examine when people have gone too far. Unlike the murderous scumbags that look into the camera gleefully singing to Allah while the chop a prisoners head off, we investigated and tried and ultimately convicted and jailed people for 'embarrasing' prisoners at Abu Graib.

    The story that was posted cited one or two lines that might be interpreted that the military did indeed exercise restraint and attempted to warn the bus. Was that balanced? Fair? While this convoy of 'nation builders' was busy clearing the highway of mines and IEDs that the POS scumbags planted, they by their account had a bus that refused to slow down despite repeated warnings.

    Start with THAT...and I bet we could have a pretty balanced discussion.
    That is what they are reporting, and I have no reason to dispute it. But was the bus anything but civilians? If that's all it was, they weren't scum bags and while it might not be criminal, it is surely a shame if they were only civilians. And being bother by that would be fair. I would bet those who did the shooting are bothered.

    Fair means stepping back, waiting, hearing all the testimony out, learning and not assuming. Am I wrong about that?

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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Dude, what? That doesn't even make sense. You're saying at no point should soldiers have fired on that bus. Barreling down a sidewalk, closing in on a school, doesn't matter to you!
    You are making up crap I never said. Reports say that when the bus was fired on, it was pulled to the side of the road, with two convoys passing on the highway in opposite directions. Where did the sidewalk and the school come from anyway? Commanding officers have already said this was a tragedy and not within the rules of engagement, so why do you leap to defend the killers and ridicule those who believe the lives of a bus full of civilians has every bit as much value as the lives of American soldiers?

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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You are making up crap I never said. Reports say that when the bus was fired on, it was pulled to the side of the road, with two convoys passing on the highway in opposite directions. Where did the sidewalk and the school come from anyway? Commanding officers have already said this was a tragedy and not within the rules of engagement, so why do you leap to defend the killers and ridicule those who believe the lives of a bus full of civilians has every bit as much value as the lives of American soldiers?
    Your article does not support your claim that the CO said it was not within the rules of engagement, it really is too early to tell. The reports on the bus's actions leading up to the shooting are disputed, with the more reliable source(the military) saying they made significant efforts to stop the bus, but it did not.

    Why do you leap to villianize those who are serving their country and defending your right to post any kind of outrageous **** on a message board you want? You are jumping to conclusions with an absence of facts to support it. I suspect(any one can confirm?) that this incident will most likely have been videotaped from somewhere, and I promise you that tape will be gone over in great detail if it does exist.

    Right now none of us know for sure what happened. The best we can do is theorize. Based on the knowledge some of us have with the military, we can at least make educated theories.
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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    I am not making fun of or dismissing the deaths of Afghan civilians but let’s be serious here this is classic Collateral damage

    This obviously was not a normal event. Something went wrong here and we would need a more investigation to figure what actually happened here.
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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You are making up crap I never said. Reports say that when the bus was fired on, it was pulled to the side of the road, with two convoys passing on the highway in opposite directions. Where did the sidewalk and the school come from anyway? Commanding officers have already said this was a tragedy and not within the rules of engagement, so why do you leap to defend the killers and ridicule those who believe the lives of a bus full of civilians has every bit as much value as the lives of American soldiers?
    Okay, let's play the ole "what did I post?" game. The Rev said:

    I'd argue at a certain point not firing upon it would be being cavilier with ones own life.
    To which you replied:

    a cowardly sentiment from a supposed veteran
    Which seems a pretty clear indication to me that you strongly disagree with his sentiments that after a certain point not firing on it would be careless with your own life.
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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Okay, let's play the ole "what did I post?" game.
    Such a terrible game to have to play. I hate it when that happens.

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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

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    Such a terrible game to have to play. I hate it when that happens.
    Me too. Then I have to open multiple windows so I can copy the right posts. Blech!
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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Ignoring this article for a moment, just a question, is it possible to ever criticize the military on any action they take? Or is any criticism always seen as being anti military? I really am curious.
    Well criticizing is all you ever do. So it's safe to assume the military is a bunch of no good killers in your eyes.
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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    The frequency of such occurrences of collateral/friendly fire incidients might lead some to the conclusion that it is safer to be an enemy than a friend.
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    Re: US troops fire on Afghan bus, killing at least 5 civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is what they are reporting, and I have no reason to dispute it. But was the bus anything but civilians? If that's all it was, they weren't scum bags and while it might not be criminal, it is surely a shame if they were only civilians. And being bother by that would be fair. I would bet those who did the shooting are bothered.

    Fair means stepping back, waiting, hearing all the testimony out, learning and not assuming. Am I wrong about that?
    When you are in a combat zone...and a bus is bearing down on you, ignoring flares and warnings...just how do you determine that "oh...hey...its cool...they are all civilians"?

    So by all means. Stop...weigh it...hear it out. Dont assume ****. One way OR the other.

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