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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    “We shouldn't just be the 'party of no,' we should be the 'party of hell no.'” — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal¹

    "There is no shame in being the 'party of no' if the other side proposes something that violates our Constitution and conscience.” — former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin²

    The ‘Party of No’ seems to fit as far as I am concerned.
    Well, of course, because to people like you there are no principled disagreements with you. Your opponents are always racist bigots, mysognists, sexists, fearmongers.

    I would hope that you also would want a political minority to become the party of no when what is being proposed violates the Constitution.

    Then again, maybe not. At least not when it is your preferences that are being imposed, right?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    They could take up Newt Gingrich's advice and really stand up for something; right now they just sit down in opposition to everything.
    Liar. And the worst part is...that you know you are lying.

    So why are you lying? Do you think it's a legitimate argument? Or are you ignorant but pass off such statements as facts? Either way, you're lying.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You do have a point, and that would probably be true with many of them. But NOT so that they could then portray the opposing party of not being able to get anything done; and frankly it is insulting to America as a whole to say that voters would fall for such an obvious tactic. If they liked the bill and voted against it, it would be because it was an unpopular bill and they would've personally (as opposed to collectively as a party) gotten voted out if they had voted for it.
    I am not sure if I agree with that, but it is just speculation, so probably best to let it go. I will just go back to my original comment which is calling them names is petty and makes us look bad.
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Being a "party of No" makes sense when you can't offer valid alternative solutions to real problems and you have to rely on your ideology just to survive. I don't care if the Republicans always stay as the "party of No" because even if the Dems can't offer perfect solutions, they at least have something to offer.
    LMAO!!!

    As if you would accept anything other than your preference as "valid." So now we know that you argue in bad faith.

    Pretending that the GOP does not propose alternatives is silly, but it fits well with your intellectual dishonesty.

    Oh, and so you cannot whine that I am simply name-calling...see Paul Ryan's alternative proposals to Obamacare. End of story.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    So I am unclear, do you join me, Palin and Jindal in supporting the “Party of No” moniker or not?
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Some of us don't live in a world of ideological extremes.
    Then you're fooling yourself. Or you're being dishonest.

    Most people simply don't put on a blindfold and then throw a dart at the wall and select their political ideology. Most people identify with an ideology that fits best with their personal preferences.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    So I am unclear, do you join me, Palin and Jindal in supporting the “Party of No” or not?
    I wasn't unclear.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You do have a point, and that would probably be true with many of them. But NOT so that they could then portray the opposing party of not being able to get anything done; and frankly it is insulting to America as a whole to say that voters would fall for such an obvious tactic. If they liked the bill and voted against it, it would be because it was an unpopular bill and they would've personally (as opposed to collectively as a party) gotten voted out if they had voted for it.
    Obviously. I mean, if the bill wasn't bad and they were trying to portray the opposing party as not being able to get anything done, then the Republicans would have had to stoop to spreading mistruths about the bill in order to sway public opinion on it. The Republicans would have had to say absurd things like it encouraged euthanasia, that it would force people to pay for other people's abortions, that tens of millions of Americans would lose their private insurance and that it would put America on a slippery slope towards Socialism. Since that clearly never happened, the Republicans were just pushing against an unpopular bill.
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    So I am unclear, do you join me, Palin and Jindal in supporting the “Party of No” moniker or not?
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Sword View Post
    I wasn't unclear.
    Send the man a “Party of No” sign-up and contribution form! And, thanks for your support!
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Send the man a “Party of No” sign-up and contribution form! And, thanks for your support!
    Your lck of clarity is not my fault. You're being obtuse.

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