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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Sword View Post
    Kinda ironic, ain't it, when a poster breathlessly notes that we're in the middle of a financial meltdown and is whining that the Republicans were opposed to an extension of unemployment benefits?? Maybe he didn't realize that the Republicans were attemtping to ensure that we would actually pay for the extension rather than borrowing to pay for it??

    LMAO!!
    You are so right. After all, the "Party of No" has a very long history of fiscal responsibility. The only launched unnecessary wars when they were fully funded (I think they even had the money in advance, set aside in a lock box)... and contrary to popular fact, they did not double the national debt under two of their most recent administrations, as after all, they are so fiscally responsible. A little intellectual honesty in the house, please!

    LMAO
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ok, so... what has The Obama offered to the GOP that the GOP, being the GOP, can support?
    The role of the minority party is to largely accept the fact that they are the minority party. They do not get to set the agenda. They get to tweak bills and draw the line only on the most egregious of bills. You have to pick your battles. You can not find everything egregious and just say no. The system just does not work that way. What happens if their is a power shift and the dems behaved the same way (assuming they had the testicular fortitude to do so, which they don't)... nothing would ever get done.

    The problem is the Repubs are not 1) accepting they are out of power and 2) frankly, not fulfilling their responsibility to represent. Sorry, this is nothing but an abuse of power by the Repubs.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The role of the minority party is to largely accept the fact that they are the minority party. They do not get to set the agenda.
    Hmm. This very definitely does -not- describe the Dems when they were out of power - how was it that the Dems did not simply lay down and take whatever the GOP fed them 2001-2006? What did you think of -them- when -they- refused to do so?
    They get to tweak bills and draw the line only on the most egregious of bills. You have to pick your battles. You can not find everything egregious and just say no.
    Sure you can. You can do what you want. Why can't you?
    The system just does not work that way.
    This system was deliberately set up to make it difficult for the government to do anything -- so, yes it does.
    What happens if their is a power shift and the dems behaved the same way (assuming they had the testicular fortitude to do so, which they don't)... nothing would ever get done.
    And...?
    The problem is the Repubs are....frankly, not fulfilling their responsibility to represent.
    On what gounds?
    You think their constituents want them to let The Obama's agenda pass?
    By opposing The Obama's agenda, how are they not fulfilling their responsibilities?
    Sorry, this is nothing but an abuse of power by the Repubs.
    And this is nothing but sour grapes -- how DARE those Republicans get in the way of The Obama?!?!?!?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    “We shouldn't just be the 'party of no,' we should be the 'party of hell no.'” — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal¹

    "There is no shame in being the 'party of no' if the other side proposes something that violates our Constitution and conscience.” — former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin²

    The ‘Party of No’ seems to fit as far as I am concerned.
    To be fair, the loyal opposition has an obligation to fight against things they disagree with. I don't have a problem with that. Never have. I have more problem with either side doing so dishonestly (death panels, socialism, Hitler, killing granny [something both sides have used at times] and such).

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    When they don't try to stop the expansion of government, they are called out for it. When they do try to stop the expansion of government, they are the "Party of No". It's not like they can win here.

    Saying "No" would only hurt if they were saying no to things that, you know, people really want.
    You're right. The description is misleading. Reps should be known as the party of phony compassion.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    You're right. The description is misleading. Reps should be known as the party of phony compassion.

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    And the Democrats should be known as the party of "Ass"




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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    To be fair, the loyal opposition has an obligation to fight against things they disagree with. …
    Aye, but Republicans are now obstructing uncontroversial nominees, too. The ‘Party of No’ is doing its best to make sure the American government cannot function. That's not the behavior of the loyal opposition, it is something far more sinister.
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    The goal of Republican opposition is to attempt to insure the Democrats do not get credit for any legislation or actions which improve the lives of American citizens. In this effort they have already failed.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Aye, but Republicans are now obstructing uncontroversial nominees, too. The ‘Party of No’ is doing its best to make sure the American government cannot function. That's not the behavior of the loyal opposition, it is something far more sinister.
    Please. The liberals did the same thing to Bush's nominees.

    Its amazing the selective memory some liberals have.
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    The record I have documented in this thread says different.

    It's amazing the impaired memory some conservatives have.
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