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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    They had a chance to be involved. Alot of their own ideas were in the damn bill. Its a tactic to get re-elected, nothing more. If you bog down the governing party, it makes people think they can't get anything done, and boom you get elected to be supposedly better. IT was a strategy developed by the Republicans during the Clinton administration.
    Republican constituencies don't want what you're offering. How hard is that to understand!?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Obviously. I mean, if the bill wasn't bad and they were trying to portray the opposing party as not being able to get anything done, then the Republicans would have had to stoop to spreading mistruths about the bill in order to sway public opinion on it. The Republicans would have had to say absurd things like it encouraged euthanasia, that it would force people to pay for other people's abortions, that tens of millions of Americans would lose their private insurance and that it would put America on a slippery slope towards Socialism. Since that clearly never happened, the Republicans were just pushing against an unpopular bill.
    So, were you at all bothered by the left's behavior? Or will you honestly try to say they didn't do anything wrong?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The only reason some people will lose coverage is because some of the companies will choose to pay the penalty rather than cover their employees. How is that Obama's fault?
    This is Obama's bill. That's why he's responsible for it. Understand!?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Too bad people cannot say no to voting for these dummies.
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually, I'm pretty happy with this thing called a Constitutional Republic. You should look it up. It's an astonishing form of government. It has checks and balances meant to protect the rights of the individual from being trampled by the tyranny of the majority. I think you might even know of a country that has one.
    Where is this "Constitutional Republic" you speak of? You know, the one that abides by the Constitution and not some bizarre statist interpretation...

    Can you cite the specific power which allows the Federal government to impose mandates on healthcare or appropriate money for healthcare?

    Why did Thomas Jefferson want to Amend the Constitution so as to allow for Federal funding of education if the general welfare clause already permitted him to do so?

    Really, I'd love to discuss the Constitution with you. Have you even read it?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Can you cite the specific power which allows the Federal government to impose mandates on healthcare or appropriate money for healthcare?
    Providing for the general welfare and common defense.

    Next.

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    This is Obama's bill. That's why he's responsible for it. Understand!?
    Obama didn't make companies choose to pay a penalty over providing coverage for their employees. That is the companies decision. Understand?

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Obama didn't make companies choose to pay a penalty over providing coverage for their employees. That is the companies decision. Understand?
    Yeah, I thought conservatives were into personal responsibility. A company has a CHOICE, here. They may not like their choices, but it is their responsibility to decide what choice they make. No one else's.
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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Providing for the general welfare and common defense.

    Next.
    Profound.

    So there's no limit to federal power.

    And that phrase general welfare has got to be one of the most abused phrases throughout the Constitution. Contorted to mean whatever some need it to to impose their will.

    And, yet, some people have the audacity to state they respect the Constitution...

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    Re: Some Republicans embrace 'Party of No'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Sword View Post
    Profound.

    So there's no limit to federal power.
    Since the 1936 decision? Nope. You gotta problem with it, then pass a Federal Constitutional Amendment. After all, that is what you want everyone else to do to expand the Federal government's power right? Then why don't practice what you preach by using that method to decrease it?

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