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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    How petty. Obama's nuclear summit isn't supposed to be about Israel, in case you were wondering.
    And yet it is now... because Israel made it so.. /clap the coward Netanyahu.
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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    concerning the title of this thread, netanyahu cancels trip to obama's nuclear summit:

    today on fns jiltin joe lieberman, hands down israel's #1 inside-the-beltway loyalist for decades, announced that he has just sent a letter to president pie-in-the-face objecting to the administration's "offensive" rewriting of natl security docs stripping terms like "islamic extremism" from them

    failing to call terrorists exactly what they are, asserts jf kerry's veep pick, is "dishonest, wrong-headed and disrespectful to the majority of muslims who are not terrorists"

    FOXNews.com - Lieberman: Omitting 'Islamic' Terrorism From Security Document Dishonest, 'Offensive'

    the chair of homeland security, questioned by fnc's chris wallace (son of 60 minutes mike), continued:

    Lieberman told "Fox News Sunday" this isn't the first time the Obama administration has tried to tiptoe around referring to Islam in its security documents and that it's time to "blow the whistle" on the trend.

    "This is not honest and, frankly, I think it's hurtful in our relations with the Muslim world," Lieberman said. "We're not in a war against Islam. It's a group of Islamist extremists who have taken the Muslim religion and made it into a political ideology, and I think if we're not clear about that, we disrespect the overwhelming majority of Muslims who are not extremists."

    Lieberman, in his letter, noted that prior Department of Homeland Security and Pentagon documents also did not refer to "Islamist extremism." He expressed dismay that the administration's review of the Fort Hood shooting, in which alleged shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan was said to have had contact with a radical cleric beforehand, omitted the term.

    "Unless we're honest about that, we're not going to be able to defeat this enemy," Lieberman told "Fox News Sunday." "It's absolutely Orwellian and counterproductive to the fight that we're fighting."
    lieberman's right

    obama is wildly and weirdly pro muslim

    bibi's a badass

    you don't stick it to aipac, domestically speaking, for nothing

    obama should know this, it's common knowledge, politics 101

    and yet you can see SURPRISE visibly register in this white house's wide-eyed countenance

    rank amateurs

    the point is---the party will NOT follow the president over another ambitious, obamite abyss

    not after health care

    ahab harpooned his moby, and that's all he'll get

    at this point, initiative is non starter that does not have the express approval specifically of john mccain

    because democrats will not go for their leaders again without COVER

    you can see agenda's end in cap and trade, reg reform, the bank tax, the debt commission...

    the trial of ksm downtown, the mirandizing of murderous mullahs, the relegation of dadt...

    the prosecution of the cia, the movement of yemenis to thompson, the closure of gitmo...

    the party will not follow him, not on anything left of center

    and you can see it here, vividly---his start treaty, which has already stopped

    http://video.ap.org/?f=VAAJN&PID=274...AgUjU6CnYc1iGn

    lieberman said today he wouldn't vote for it

    putin will pull out over eastern sdi

    which lieberman says we need to "protect our allies from iran"

    it's all so complicated

    Russia reserves opt-out of arms treaty with US - Yahoo! News

    bit picture---the most incompetent leadership at a national level america has ever endured

    hang in
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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Cites please. Show us when Israel has ever outright denied having nuclear weapons. Israel has always neither confirmed nor denied nuclear capability.
    Give me a break, everyone knows Israel has nukes, but Israel refuses to say so. Not only is Israeli policy hypocritical, it is in fact urging other countries to behave just as bad and go for a nuke, because of the threat from Israel.

    While Iran is being chastised for having a nuclear program that may or may not be able to make a nuke, and even stating.. we do not want to make a nuke, little old Israel gets a full free pass for hiding its nukes (officially) from the world for 40 or so years.

    Just imagine if another nation had done that....

    If Israel has nukes, they acquired this capability before the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (1969/1970).
    Prove it.. officially Israel has no nukes. Hence if they were to admit they had, then they would be "forced" to go under the NPT. By not admitting it, they are free to sell/give their technology to others, which they have.

    In the end all that has happened is that the NPT has been weakened because not all nuclear weapon nations are part of it, and hence other nations who develop the weapons can say.. why should we sign it when Israel does not?

    Under the NPT guidelines, this would make Israel a pre-existing nuclear power with the same perks enjoyed by the United States, Britain, France, Russia, and China. Israel has never proliferated in either nuclear technology or nuclear materials.
    Bull****. Israel sold/gave technology and knowhow to Apartheid South Africa. Of course there is no "proof" out there, but then again there is no "proof" Israel has nukes and yet we all know they do.

    With the nascent rise of post-NPT nuclear states (North Korea, Pakistan, India, Iran), the NPT is losing all credibility as more nations (Syria/Egypt/KSA) explore the nuclear option.
    It lost its credibility long ago because Israel never joined.
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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Give me a break, everyone knows Israel has nukes, but Israel refuses to say so. Not only is Israeli policy hypocritical, it is in fact urging other countries to behave just as bad and go for a nuke, because of the threat from Israel.

    While Iran is being chastised for having a nuclear program that may or may not be able to make a nuke, and even stating.. we do not want to make a nuke, little old Israel gets a full free pass for hiding its nukes (officially) from the world for 40 or so years.

    Just imagine if another nation had done that....



    Prove it.. officially Israel has no nukes. Hence if they were to admit they had, then they would be "forced" to go under the NPT. By not admitting it, they are free to sell/give their technology to others, which they have.

    In the end all that has happened is that the NPT has been weakened because not all nuclear weapon nations are part of it, and hence other nations who develop the weapons can say.. why should we sign it when Israel does not?



    Bull****. Israel sold/gave technology and knowhow to Apartheid South Africa. Of course there is no "proof" out there, but then again there is no "proof" Israel has nukes and yet we all know they do.



    It lost its credibility long ago because Israel never joined.
    All bull**** and conjecture. You're only bad boy in the whole world is Israel.

    Gee, fancy that. I think Pew Global Research is right on the money regarding Spain and intolerance.

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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    appears you struck a nerve there, pete

    israel's refusal to acknowledge its nuclear arsenal is about to bite it in the butt
    on one hand, it insists that iran should not be entitled to develop its own nuclear capacity; that iran needs to be monitored to ensure a weapons capability does not result
    on the other hand, israel refuses to play by the same rules it would have the world impose on iran

    what is the diplomatic term for 'tuff tushies'?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what is the diplomatic term for 'tuff tushies'?
    a start treaty that aint goin nowhere

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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    appears you struck a nerve there, pete

    israel's refusal to acknowledge its nuclear arsenal is about to bite it in the butt
    on one hand, it insists that iran should not be entitled to develop its own nuclear capacity; that iran needs to be monitored to ensure a weapons capability does not result
    on the other hand, israel refuses to play by the same rules it would have the world impose on iran

    what is the diplomatic term for 'tuff tushies'?
    In this case, it's probably, "Go ahead and develop your nuclear weapons, and the delivery system to wipe us out. We already have nuclear weapons, we're watching you, and we'll nuke you before you get us."

    It' a variation on the theme of, I've got the drop on you, the hammer is back, and the gun is aimed. Go ahead and draw.
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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Why does Israel refuse to declare it Nuclear weapons, and they want Iran to be watched? Israel are a bunch of hypocrites, if they want Iran to be watched they should also confuse to having the weapons in the first place.
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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    what a coward. Cancelling because he does not want to admit that Israel has nukes.. pathetic coward.
    This statement shows the kind of thinking Dumb ass Obama used to tell the world come and kill millions we'll just sit by and watch.

    You never show your cards or make stupid statements about you capabilities to protect and defend your home.

    It's like the monumentally stupid gun laws in Australia where all the guns were outlawed and the crime rates have soared since, because the bad guys know what to expect, no resistance.

    Naive is too nice a word to describe Obama and his fellow Cultists.
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    Re: Netanyahu cancels trip to Obama's nuclear summit

    obama's living in a fantasy world, he thinks he's woodrow wilson

    and he's so UNFAMILIAR with american politics (he pissed off aipac, for no profit, didn't he), he doesn't seem to appreciate that the virulently racist progressive ex-president of princeton, at least on this internationalist approach, was a LOSER

    while obama summons the someones and no ones to summit in dc to sing about his pretty nuke-free planet, his own senate makes his START with PUTIN a non-start

    the treaty needs SIXTY SEVEN, for starters

    and nuke agreements take FOREVER, there's no way this can be done before late 2011, if then

    and SIX MONTHS from now the dems are gonna lose, according to rcp's polls of polls, EIGHT seats in upper house

    now, it's true, the party in power may not lose that many (tho they may lose more)

    but, either way, they're gonna have substantially fewer than the FIFTY NINE they have today

    and no momentum

    momentum, in fact, is certain to morph into a state of intimidation

    obama's nuke summit is a narcissistic fantasy

    which, at times like these...

    well, it just doesn't look good

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