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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I bet the GOP filibusters literally any pick and doesn't even bother to claim it's based on qualifications rather than ideology.

    edit: And the longer they filibuster, the more it's going to hurt them. Imagine the ads for the 2010/2012 elections: "The GOP is using parliamentary tactics to stall the appointment process for the most important seat in the country."
    didn't hurt the dems when they filibustered the eminently qualified Miguel Estrada on racist reasons or blocked Peter Keisler for anti semitic reasons

    an interesting sub plot is that with Stevens retirement the dominant religious groups in the USA-the Protestant Christians have absolutely no members on the court--everyone left is Jewish (2) or Catholic (6) and two of the leading contenders are Jewish



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    didn't hurt the dems when they filibustered the eminently qualified Miguel Estrada on racist reasons or blocked Peter Keisler for anti semitic reasons

    an interesting sub plot is that with Stevens retirement the dominant religious groups in the USA-the Protestant Christians have absolutely no members on the court--everyone left is Jewish (2) or Catholic (6) and two of the leading contenders are Jewish
    You can of course source the claims that those two where blocked on racist and anti-Semitic reasons.

    What does the religion of the justices have to do with anything?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    And yet Roberts and Alito--both incredibly right-wing--made it through the Senate. Go figure.



    He's entitled to nominate someone exactly like Stevens, and I hope he does.
    those two are among the most qualified men to ever make it to the supreme court

    Roberts was at the very top of his class at Harvard and Harvard law and was well regarded as one of the 3-4 best supreme court litigators in the United States. ALito was #1 at Princeton and at the very top of his class at Yale Law, a top rated Assistant US attorney, a highly regarded US Attorney, and then again a very highly regarded Circuit Court Judge with years of experience.

    The left would love seeing radical lesbian and brilliant professor Pamela Karlan (Who I knew fairly well at Yale) but she probably is too radical given the way things are going in the senate. Kagan is considered more moderate but she also is Jewish and there is some thought that Obama best pick a protestant.

    Me, I'd love to see my old friend Akhil Reed Amar on the court. Not only is he Indian-American (thus a first) he is truly brilliant and one of the most intellectually honest men I have had the pleasure to be associated with



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those two are among the most qualified men to ever make it to the supreme court

    Roberts was at the very top of his class at Harvard and Harvard law and was well regarded as one of the 3-4 best supreme court litigators in the United States. ALito was #1 at Princeton and at the very top of his class at Yale Law, a top rated Assistant US attorney, a highly regarded US Attorney, and then again a very highly regarded Circuit Court Judge with years of experience.

    The left would love seeing radical lesbian and brilliant professor Pamela Karlan (Who I knew fairly well at Yale) but she probably is too radical given the way things are going in the senate. Kagan is considered more moderate but she also is Jewish and there is some thought that Obama best pick a protestant.

    Me, I'd love to see my old friend Akhil Reed Amar on the court. Not only is he Indian-American (thus a first) he is truly brilliant and one of the most intellectually honest men I have had the pleasure to be associated with
    WTF does a judges orientation or religion have to do with being a Supreme Court justice?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can of course source the claims that those two where blocked on racist and anti-Semitic reasons.

    What does the religion of the justices have to do with anything?
    sure, the Rockefeller memorandum indicated that if Estrada was put on the DC circuit that would groom him for the supreme court and Bush would probably elevate him and get a big boost from hispanic voters.

    Keisler, a Jew, is among the most brilliant attorneys in the USA and a founder of the federalist society. He was also one of my best friends in college and I know that he was criticized for being a "Conservative" given his "Background.

    Now why don't you tell me why Estrada was blocked even though

    1) the Liberal ABA gave him their top rating (as they did Keisler)

    2) ALL FOUR LIVING FORMER DEMOCRAT SOLICITOR GENERALS ENDORSED HIM FOR THE APPELLATE BENCH



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sure, the Rockefeller memorandum indicated that if Estrada was put on the DC circuit that would groom him for the supreme court and Bush would probably elevate him and get a big boost from hispanic voters.

    Keisler, a Jew, is among the most brilliant attorneys in the USA and a founder of the federalist society. He was also one of my best friends in college and I know that he was criticized for being a "Conservative" given his "Background.

    Now why don't you tell me why Estrada was blocked even though

    1) the Liberal ABA gave him their top rating (as they did Keisler)

    2) ALL FOUR LIVING FORMER DEMOCRAT SOLICITOR GENERALS ENDORSED HIM FOR THE APPELLATE BENCH
    So no source then?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    WTF does a judges orientation or religion have to do with being a Supreme Court justice?
    are you really that stupid? You don't think Sotomayor being Hispanic was a leading reason for her appointment? Did you know that George Mitchell told BUsh I white house counsel Peter Keisler and Lee Liberman Otis that the Thurgood Marshall seat was "the black seat" and anyone other than a black would be Borked? For years there has been a "jewish" seat on the court that goes back to FDR.



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you really that stupid? You don't think Sotomayor being Hispanic was a leading reason for her appointment? Did you know that George Mitchell told BUsh I white house counsel Peter Keisler and Lee Liberman Otis that the Thurgood Marshall seat was "the black seat" and anyone other than a black would be Borked? For years there has been a "jewish" seat on the court that goes back to FDR.
    Are you really so stupid you won't back up your claims with sources?

    See, more than one can play that game...

    By the way, did I mention ethnicity?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So no source then?
    I am a source, I handle federal appellate cases and I know many of the players

    do you have a law degree and if so, feel free to dispute what I have posted

    I know Amar, Keisler, and Karlan very well along with a couple outside contenders such as Ian Ayers



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am a source, I handle federal appellate cases and I know many of the players

    do you have a law degree and if so, feel free to dispute what I have posted

    I know Amar, Keisler, and Karlan very well along with a couple outside contenders such as Ian Ayers
    You are in no way a reliable source. I could claim to be anything I want to on the internets too. Sorry, but I don't believe random claims from people on the internets.
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