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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Obama is going to be in a pickle on this, no matter what he does. The far left is going to want a radical, and Obama won't deliver it. He can't, without losing the moderates. And the Republicans, still smarting over their defeat on health care, are going to stonewall any nomination completely. One of two things is going to happen. There will either be an invocation of the "nuclear option", since there won't be anyone on either side willing to compromise this time, or Obama will make this a recess appointment. I predict the former, as Republicans won't be able to reverse it, as they could if they took over after a recess appointment has been made.
    What do you think the political fallout of blocking the nomination by republicans will have, and the use of the "nuclear option" will have? Will this have an effect in November?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The Party of ‘No’ is the label I have attached to the Republican Party
    Oh so it is a hyper partisan smear tactic intent on clouding the discussion with idiotic sound bytes rather than open an honest discussion.

    As long as we're clear about that.

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh so it is a hyper partisan smear tactic intent on clouding the discussion with idiotic sound bytes rather than open an honest discussion.

    As long as we're clear about that.
    Well she's not wrong. The republican party has time and time again said no to just about everything the President has asked for, or introduced. and alot of those ideas were the republicans ideas! that they supported but dropped as soon as the president picked them up. What cowardice and bad sports.

    Anyway, who thinks Joseph Stalin is a front runner for supreme court?

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    No bending out of shape here.

    I just have no confidence in the core element of the Republican Senate caucus being responsible and focusing on the nominee's qualifications.

    But, we'll see, and I for one would enjoy being pleasantly surprised by some honest statesmanship showing up in the upper chamber.
    Just curious.... did you consider the Democrats the "party of no" when they blocked and filibustered Bush's judicial nominations ???

    Back to the topic.. it doesn't matter too much who Obama chooses. He'll be simple replacing one left leaning judge with another. He's certainly not going to nominate a conservative and I agree that he won't nominate a far left jurist. He's in enough hot water now with out turning up the heat more.

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Back to the topic.. it doesn't matter too much who Obama chooses. He'll be simple replacing one left leaning judge with another. He's certainly not going to nominate a conservative and I agree that he won't nominate a far left jurist. He's in enough hot water now with out turning up the heat more.
    Do you agree with Dan that the republicans will block any nominee that Obama might pick?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well she's not wrong. The republican party has time and time again said no to just about everything the President has asked for, or introduced. and alot of those ideas were the republicans ideas! that they supported but dropped as soon as the president picked them up. What cowardice and bad sports.

    Anyway, who thinks Joseph Stalin is a front runner for supreme court?
    There is nothing wrong with politicians standing against the opposition party when their constituents wish them to.

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    This thread makes me sad already. I started it wanting to talk about something of key importance to the country, a new Supreme Court justice. Instead, all we can do is bicker about party politics.
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you agree with Dan that the republicans will block any nominee that Obama might pick?
    I think that depends on who Obama nominates. If he/she leans far left, then yes. They will have to in order to keep the base happy.

    If he nominates a moderate lefty, then I think many will vote for the candidate. Most Senators tend to give the President a lot of leeway in Supreme Court nominations, with the exceptions of the Dem's smears of Bork and Thomas.

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I think that depends on who Obama nominates. If he/she leans far left, then yes. They will have to in order to keep the base happy.

    If he nominates a moderate lefty, then I think many will vote for the candidate. Most Senators tend to give the President a lot of leeway in Supreme Court nominations, with the exceptions of the Dem's smears of Bork and Thomas.
    Are you at all familiar with any of the people listed as possibles in the article I linked?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Obama is going to be in a pickle on this, no matter what he does. The far left is going to want a radical, and Obama won't deliver it. He can't, without losing the moderates. And the Republicans, still smarting over their defeat on health care, are going to stonewall any nomination completely. One of two things is going to happen. There will either be an invocation of the "nuclear option", since there won't be anyone on either side willing to compromise this time, or Obama will make this a recess appointment. I predict the former, as Republicans won't be able to reverse it, as they could if they took over after a recess appointment has been made.
    A recess appointment is not permanent, and has to be approved by the Senate before the expiration of the following Congress or the President has to start over. The "nuclear option" will be a one way street. If it's invoked/enacted (whatever), then it will be with us until the end of time. I just hope whichever party decides to use it understands that.
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