Page 11 of 13 FirstFirst ... 910111213 LastLast
Results 101 to 110 of 130

Thread: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

  1. #101
    Sage
    disneydude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 12:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,145

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am not sure how I feel about Stevens retiring...One thing I feel is you can't find a bigger liberal them him to replace him so that is good.......There is also a lot of pressure on Obama to pick a moderate...Don't forget mid terms elections are coming up and dems are in big trouble as it is.......
    LOL. Why do you think there is pressure on Obama to pick a moderate?

    If anything...there is pressure on him to pick someone who is actually liberal to replace Stevens, another liberal. Sotomayor was a moderate pick, Obama played that one safe. I expect him to play this one probably safe as well too and wait for Ginsburg to leave to pick his Liberal justice. However, being that Obama is moderate himself, its not likely that he will pick someone that is too far left-wing...but we can hope.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

  2. #102
    Pragmatic Idealist
    upsideguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rocky Mtn. High
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:07 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,127

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Just curious.... did you consider the Democrats the "party of no" when they blocked and filibustered Bush's judicial nominations ???
    Ultimately Bush got almost everything done that he was suppose to get done. The Dems may have protested and fillibustered on occasion, but the process fundamentally worked and Bush got his nominations through. If the Repubs would only play the same way as the Dems did, then Washington would fundamentally work.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 04-11-10 at 06:01 PM.

  3. #103
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,715

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL. Why do you think there is pressure on Obama to pick a moderate?

    If anything...there is pressure on him to pick someone who is actually liberal to replace Stevens, another liberal. Sotomayor was a moderate pick, Obama played that one safe. I expect him to play this one probably safe as well too and wait for Ginsburg to leave to pick his Liberal justice. However, being that Obama is moderate himself, its not likely that he will pick someone that is too far left-wing...but we can hope.
    Obama is moderate if one is a far left trotskyite. To normal americans Obama is far left, as well as not really being up for the job



  4. #104
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,715

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Ultimately Bush got almost everything done that he was suppose to get done. The Dems may have protested and fillibustered on occasion, but the process fundamentally worked and Bush got his nominations through. If the Repubs would only play the same way as the Dems did, then Washington would fundamentally work.
    so the GOP has fillibustered an appellate Obama Pick?



  5. #105
    Sage
    disneydude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 12:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,145

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Obama is moderate if one is a far left trotskyite. To normal americans Obama is far left, as well as not really being up for the job
    Sorry....but you guys keep trying to say that....unfortunately for you, Obama's voting record says otherwise.
    Those of us on the left are happy with what we have, because we know that a left-leaning moderate is about as close as we are going to get.
    Obama has never been a liberal, despite all your efforts to try to paint him as such.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

  6. #106
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last Seen
    04-13-10 @ 04:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    240

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....but you guys keep trying to say that....unfortunately for you, Obama's voting record says otherwise.
    Those of us on the left are happy with what we have, because we know that a left-leaning moderate is about as close as we are going to get.
    Obama has never been a liberal, despite all your efforts to try to paint him as such.
    Obama is a radical leftist. The only people who don't think so are Code Pink, socialists, and extremist west coast liberals like yourself.

  7. #107
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,715

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....but you guys keep trying to say that....unfortunately for you, Obama's voting record says otherwise.
    Those of us on the left are happy with what we have, because we know that a left-leaning moderate is about as close as we are going to get.
    Obama has never been a liberal, despite all your efforts to try to paint him as such.
    It all depends on your perspective. I considered someone like Evan Bayh and Bill Clinton or All Gore pre 1994 or so to be moderates, Arlen Spector, Olympia Snowe are also moderates

    Obama is as radical as we have seen among those who actually get elected to high offices in America

    He supports the creeping crud of socialism, income redistribution and the war on success and the pandering to the reactionary parasitic statism that dominates your side of the aisle



  8. #108
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,715

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Obama is a radical leftist. The only people who don't think so are Code Pink, socialists, and extremist west coast liberals like yourself.
    as I noted if you think Trotsky is in the mainstream you probably see the magic Masai marxist as a moderate. I see him as a stealth communist who is doing his best to ruin America



  9. #109
    Passionate
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    03-07-11 @ 04:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    15,675

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true=so tell me why did the libs when they were the minority and Bush was the president block Miguel Estrada with a fillibuster-the first time the minority party fillibustered an APPELLATE judge
    I remember there being problems, but I was not reading up on the facts.

    and Roberts and ALito were far more mainstream that Ruth Bader ginsburg BTW
    Are you aware of how Ginsburg was selected? Clinton consulted Orrin Hatch, which is why she sailed through.

    From an article Orrin Hatch wrote in 2005 entitled "Presidential Privilege
    You win the White House, you make the judical nominations."

    In 1993, President Clinton sought my input when considering a replacement for the retiring Justice Byron White. Some senators are today fond of waving my book Square Peg, in which I described cautioning President Clinton that confirming some candidates he was considering, such as then-Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, would be difficult. President Clinton instead nominated Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and she was easily confirmed.

    President Clinton sought my input without my demanding it because he believed it would help him fulfill his constitutional responsibility for making judicial nominations. He did so not because Senate Republicans threatened filibusters or demanded some kind of veto power over his nominations. We did not try to impose a "consensus" standard or insist that a nominee meet some super-majority "widespread support" threshold.

    Instead, President Clinton sought my input because I had established a cooperative relationship with him, because he knew his nominees would be treated fairly. Senators demanding consultation and threatening filibusters today might instead consider taking the same approach. Perhaps earning consultation will work better than demanding it.

    While I appreciate publicity for my book, I have yet to hear a Democratic senator who holds it up also quote from page 126, where I write: "One of the consequences of a presidential election...is that the winner has the right to appoint nominees to the court." In fact, at the same time I was giving President Clinton the input he sought, I also said on the Senate floor: "The President won the election. He ought to have the right to appoint the judges he wants to." Some who today demand consultation appear to have rejected that notion altogether.

    Senator Orrin G. Hatch on Supreme Court on National Review Online

  10. #110
    Passionate
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    03-07-11 @ 04:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    15,675

    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    Obama is a radical leftist. The only people who don't think so are Code Pink, socialists, and extremist west coast liberals like yourself.
    Really? I don't think he's a liberal and I grew up in Massachusetts and live in the DC area. Can you explain where I fit into your ridiculous labeling?

Page 11 of 13 FirstFirst ... 910111213 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •