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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    They should nominate Karl Marx just to make the right wing go ballistic.
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They should nominate Karl Marx just to make the right wing go ballistic.
    He isn't liberal and female enough for the Obamunists



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'm not saying that Roberts and Alito were not qualified. My point is that they are very conservative and Bush was able to get them on the Supreme Court because he was president at the time and he's entitled to pick whom he chooses. I say the same goes for Obama. He should be able to pick someone exactly like Stevens--a liberal.
    true=so tell me why did the libs when they were the minority and Bush was the president block Miguel Estrada with a fillibuster-the first time the minority party fillibustered an APPELLATE judge

    and Roberts and ALito were far more mainstream that Ruth Bader ginsburg BTW



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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They should nominate Karl Marx just to make the right wing go ballistic.
    That's because most people (left and right) don't know what Marx stood for. Not that I'm defending him. He's just one more intellectual in history, who's iresponsible fantasies of how to organize people, later wound up killing people in practical application.

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Ok, we'll play that game then, what is your name, place of work so we can VERIFY that you are indeed a CREDIBLE source?
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    That's because most people (left and right) don't know what Marx stood for. Not that I'm defending him. He's just one more intellectual in history, who's iresponsible fantasies of how to organize people, later wound up killing people in practical application.
    Also being dead for more than a century makes for an interesting debate.
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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not me, no, it's a pattern of behavior we've seen from the GOP.
    Okay, present a nsufficient number of examples that would illustrate this pattern...specifics, please.

    I know you lefties have a hard-on for this party of no business, despite being drilled on it everytime you post about it...but still...get an argument already.

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    Re: Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Also being dead for more than a century makes for an interesting debate.
    Possibly. Let's give it a go...

    People don't realize what great transition has come upon us. The age of theory has passed and many people don't even realize it existed. From a simple painting to the slaughter fields of Cambodia we see the intellectual's prescriptions upon mankind.

    Let's just look at the arts. For centuries and centuries it was the itellectual who designed for the public what art was. There were prescriptions attached to sculpture, painting, and music. There was a period in history where religious undertones was the only true art. Anything else was not inspired. It would be easy to just dismiss this as merely the choice of the artist, but it was the royalty and the church that commissioned these artists and shaped the opinion of the masses and other struggling artists. The same was true with music. Then came the nineteenth century, where artists rebelled against the intellectual. Modern men and women were the first to begin with a culture that valued individual expression and opportunity above conformity and authority. And by the twentieth century the artists were passing off the most rediculous displays as art. One can pass through a museum of art and be amazed at each exhibit until he gets to the modern art. It begs the question..."what the hell happened here?"

    But this is the intellectual's result to lesser degrees. There are extremes...

    The twentieth century was nearly done to death by intellectuals and their theories. Hundreds of millions of human beings did die as individuals sought to enforce their notions of how mankind ought to be organized. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao leap out, but there were lesser demons. Intellectuals were always the great apologists for and supporters of tyrants. It was the intellectual that supported Khomeini. Communist intellectuals went on to support Pol Pot. Even in America it was the intellectual that designed the housing projects in which to best organize the poor. The theories are never criticized as being incorrect by the intellectuals. It always comes down to them blaming human beings for their inability to assimilate. In the theory-crippled world of the intellectual, there is no room for human failure. Schemes for human perfection always end in suffering or slaughter. Karl Marx theorized of utopia and insisted on its practicalism. Men in the future put it to the test.

    At the end of the Second World War, the men who designed a new Europe and a reborn Japan were blessed. They did not have the "help" of university faculties and think tanks, whose number is in the tens of thousands and merely confuse, obstruct, bewilder, bull****, and clutter the media of the day with nonesense. What if the men who rebuilt Europe and Japan were bombarded with hordes of "experts" who compensate for their lack of experience with self-righteousness and snobbery?


    In the twentieth-first century we saw a different kind of "intellectual." Rumsfeld's theories of how to win wars flew against the convention and the time tested facts throughout history. Mankind's oldest profession was reduced to one man's inexperienced pathetic ideas. His vision was realized for it's failure in Iraq where he earnestly believed technology alone would win our future wars and that fractured populations divided by tribe would self order at the door step of democracy. His theory would have the Crusades won with mere catapults. On the flip side was the self appointed intellectual who had never served in the military or been to the region where the conflict raged and knew absolutely nothing of relevance, yet felt perfectly qualified to declare every step our military took as a failure. We even had intellectuals in politician clothing in Washignton declare positive steps to the wonderful works of Iran. But acros the ocean we saw intellectuals in Europe prove to be inable to let go of the past and insist on behaving as if the theories of the Cold War never ended. As Americans, we are burdened to lead, which means we hgave to stop holding on the the past. Theories on how to organize people unnaturally need to die with the period that celebrated it most.

    Ralph Peters makes a good comment about this. He states that "We need not kill the theorists, but we damned well better kill their theories."

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