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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    But did he say that Bush and Cheney knew of specific individuals in Gitmo who were innocent and decided to not release them anyways, or just that they knew that some of them were probably innocent, but didn't know which ones? There's a big difference.
    I am not certain, though I would guess the later.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    From a technical legal perspective, they're not covered by the Geneva Convention or the US Constitution. From a moral and practical perspective, they're not entitled to a trial any more than a POW is.
    But again, you are doing the same thing. They are not prisoners of war, except that we should treat them as prisoners of war, except when we shouldn't.

    Edit: ok, I know I saw this post here a minute ago...
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    You know its pretty amusing that this political hack thread has been kept un breaking news while the Obama socialist thread was moved to the partisan forum.

    How exactly is this more "newsworthy?"
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Except most likely some are not.
    And as usual, this is based off zero evidence. What is the point of this baseless accusations of yours?
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You know its pretty amusing that this political hack thread has been kept un breaking news while the Obama socialist thread was moved to the partisan forum.

    How exactly is this more "newsworthy?"
    Just a word of warning: questioning mod decisions in threads is infraction worthy. I doubt what you said so far would get you infracted, but careful.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And as usual, this is based off zero evidence. What is the point of this baseless accusations of yours?
    The linked story in the OP. Duh...
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    The pattern is that kool-aid drinking rightees don't believe any proof when it is provided by anyone except their kool-aid dispensing lying leaders. That's not what "justice is blind" means.

    It's always entertaining how the right "eats their own" when one of their former heroes comes forward after witnessing illegalities. Wilkerson and Powell were well respected military men and Republicans serving on a very neo-con administration. Both of them have come forward chastising the Bush administration on a number of issues. To do so takes honor and courage. Qualities their former bosses never possessed.

    This country has a credo, make that a law, stating "innocent until proven guilty". Yet, right wing zealots don't think that applies to anyone taken prisoner under the banner of Bush's "War on Terror". Rewards were offered and people were "given up" for the reward. No proof was required before those people were thrown in jail. How is this a Repub or Dem issue?
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Don't follow the news much? SCOTUS said all prisoners in U.S. custody on U.S. soil, including GITMO, have a right to Habeus Corpus. Citizenship does not matter. The Constitution agrees.
    Changing the subject....what about the proof of thier innocence? Got any?
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But again, you are doing the same thing. They are not prisoners of war, except that we should treat them as prisoners of war, except when we shouldn't.

    Edit: ok, I know I saw this post here a minute ago...
    Yeah, I deleted it because I'm not sure that I was technically correct about the Constitution. You must've replied quickly because I deleted it quickly.

    OTOH, I still don't see why these guys should get a trial when POWs don't. It seems like POWs should have more rights than these guys.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty......unless your name is Bush.
    Innocent until proven guilty, unless your name is Obama.

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