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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    We're still waiting for the proof that they're guilty.

    BTW you'd make a terrible prosecutor.
    Not U.S. citizens. They have no such right, and this is war.

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Not U.S. citizens. They have no such right, and this is war.
    From the Declaration of Indpendence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it."

    That document was our justification for revolt; it was the case for American independence. I personally believe that holding people without charge violates these "unalienable rights" and is a form of tyranny.

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    From the Declaration of Indpendence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it."

    That document was our justification for revolt; it was the case for American independence. I personally believe that holding people without charge violates these "unalienable rights" and is a form of tyranny.
    So now we're supposed to try every prisoner of war as a U.S. citizen?

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So now we're supposed to try every prisoner of war as a U.S. citizen?
    If they are prisoners of war, shouldn't the Geneva Convention apply?
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So now we're supposed to try every prisoner of war as a U.S. citizen?
    No, we're just supposed to respect their rights as human beings and provide an avenue for their defense. They don't have to be tried as citizens, but they do have to be tried.

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    No, we're just supposed to respect their rights as human beings and provide an avenue for their defense. They don't have to be tried as citizens, but they do have to be tried.
    In military tribunals, I agree. So what's the holdup?

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If they are prisoners of war, shouldn't the Geneva Convention apply?
    No, because they don't represent a country as a soldier. They are enemy combatants of the U.S.

    And trust me, the good people of the Middle East are very thankful we've got them locked up.

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Are there really any prisons which have never held any innocent people?

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, because they don't represent a country as a soldier. They are enemy combatants of the U.S.

    And trust me, the good people of the Middle East are very thankful we've got them locked up.
    So they are not prisoners of war. You want to have things both ways, but it don't work that way.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So they are not prisoners of war. You want to have things both ways, but it don't work that way.
    Al-Qaeda is not a representative of a nation and did not sign the Geneva Conventions, thus they can be prisoners of war without being protected by them.

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