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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Oh, I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening any time soon. The Republican Party hasn't exactly been a source of profiles in courage since President Ford was ushered off the stage.
    Just to make the point, George Bush the elder was a WW2 hero. Name calling does not serve us well.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    The pattern is that kool-aid drinking rightees don't believe any proof when it is provided by anyone except their kool-aid dispensing lying leaders. That's not what "justice is blind" means.

    It's always entertaining how the right "eats their own" when one of their former heroes comes forward after witnessing illegalities. Wilkerson and Powell were well respected military men and Republicans serving on a very neo-con administration. Both of them have come forward chastising the Bush administration on a number of issues. To do so takes honor and courage. Qualities their former bosses never possessed.

    This country has a credo, make that a law, stating "innocent until proven guilty". Yet, right wing zealots don't think that applies to anyone taken prisoner under the banner of Bush's "War on Terror". Rewards were offered and people were "given up" for the reward. No proof was required before those people were thrown in jail. How is this a Repub or Dem issue?
    Blah, blah, blah. Mindless drivel.

    Still waiting for the proof that these guys were innocent. Not expecting it, so carry on......

    Now take a deep breath.......and........"Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush....."

    The brainwashing is confounding.

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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just to make the point, George Bush the elder was a WW2 hero. Name calling does not serve us well.
    I don't recall name calling on my part. You seem to be the aggressor.

    GHWB was the youngest American pilot in WWII. We should honor his service to the nation then and all his other service, too. But I also recall the “Read my lips …” line which was a cowardly concession to the radicals in his party. I recall the [paraphrased] “I wasn't in the room” excuse when the arms for hostages deal was revealed. I recall the 1988 Willie Horton ad which played on racial stereotypes. And, on and on. GHWB should be honored but his was not a profile in courage in the years following Ford's departure.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Of course they knew there were a bunch of innocent people in Gitmo!!!

    Do you seriously think that they believed they were all guilty?

    I thought this was common knowledge by like 2005.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just to make the point, George Bush the elder was a WW2 hero. Name calling does not serve us well.
    Being a war hero is not a guarantee that that person will lead our country honorably. Bush the elder proved this when he illegally worked a deal with Iran, under the direction of Reagan, to hold American hostages longer than would have normally happened and then release them 20 minutes after Reagan was sworn in (in January) just to curry favor with the American people and to prevent their release before the election (in November - 3 months earlier!) while Carter was president. Just sayin.

    Wilkerson and Powell are true heroes. Heroes don't blindly follow lying, criminally acting presidents. They stand up to them.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I don't recall name calling on my part. You seem to be the aggressor.

    GHWB was the youngest American pilot in WWII. We should honor his service to the nation then and all his other service, too. But I also recall the “Read my lips …” line which was a cowardly concession to the radicals in his party. I recall the [paraphrased] “I wasn't in the room” excuse when the arms for hostages deal was revealed. I recall the 1988 Willie Horton ad which played on racial stereotypes. And, on and on. GHWB should be honored but his was not a profile in courage in the years following Ford's departure.
    No politician is perfect, but to say no republican has show courage since Ford(who I agree showed great courage) is an exaggeration and essentially name calling. It does not make a point and it is not accurate. We liberals can win on the issues, we don't need to go the low road.

    note: yes, I know I sometimes manage to go the "low road" myself. I am not perfect either, but I do try and be fair.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Blah, blah, blah. Mindless drivel.

    Still waiting for the proof that these guys were innocent. Not expecting it, so carry on......

    Now take a deep breath.......and........"Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush....."

    The brainwashing is confounding.
    Like I said...
    The pattern is that kool-aid drinking rightees don't believe any proof when it is provided by anyone except their kool-aid dispensing lying leaders.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod

    Still waiting for the proof that these guys were innocent.
    We're still waiting for the proof that they're guilty.

    BTW you'd make a terrible prosecutor.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    We're still waiting for the proof that they're guilty.

    BTW you'd make a terrible prosecutor.
    Most don't even have a charge against them.
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    Re: Bush 'knew Guantanamo prisoners were innocent'

    What we have are a lot of accusations without a lot of proof that I know of. I have long supported a comprehensive investigation into the prisoner and interrogation methods used since the start of the war, not with the aim of finding guilt, but finding out for sure what happened so we can improve and clarify our rules.
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