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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I thought he was white
    I thought that he was an Arab so what are Arabs ? White or Sand ? Not being funny I didn't think that Arabs were Caucasian, but I could have recieved bum info.
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I thought that he was an Arab so what are Arabs ? White or Sand ? Not being funny I didn't think that Arabs were Caucasian, but I could recieved bun info.
    Color is a very useful tool in the ME (and others).

    There are very light skinned and dark skinned Arabs. Some look white. The same is true for Jews in Israel who come in all colors. But propogandous posters regarding the evils of Israel or America will always show a white man. The opposite was true in Germany where posters depicting Jews were usually not of "white" people.

    The ME has their own version of the "white man keeping them down."
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    .....Nepotism is an accepted Arab prescription. It's holdover from the Caliphate system.
    Yeah, because the Rashidun Caliphs were all selected by nepotism. What ignorance of history:

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliph Umar
    "May God curse you for tempting me to nepotism by nominating my son, when I am going to meet my Creator. The caliphate is an affair affecting the entire Muslim community, and I would not like to make it an hereditary affair in my family. I swear by God that I never coveted the caliphate for myself. Therefore what I never coveted for myself, I would not like to pass on to my family. If the caliphate is something good, then by holding the office for the last ten years, I have had the blessing for my family. If the caliphate is bad, then why should I pass on this bad thing to my family? God is my witness that during my caliphate I showed no favor to my family members. On the other hand, I was more hard with them than with the other Muslims. I have always tried to fulfil the obligation of the office under the shadow of the fear lest I may at any stage falter in the performance of my duties. I do not know whether I have succeeded in my purpose, but I will be happy if my achievements and failures just balance so that I am neither rewarded nor punished for holding the office of the caliphate. Remember ye men that if I nominate a successor, a better man than me, namely Abu Bakr also nominated a successor. And again if I do not nominate a successor, remember that the best of men, namely the Holy Prophet of Islam did not nominate a successor. Whatever the case Allah Himself would protect the interests of Islam and the Muslim community".

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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Color is a very useful tool in the ME (and others).

    There are very light skinned and dark skinned Arabs. Some look white. The same is true for Jews in Israel who come in all colors. But propogandous posters regarding the evils of Israel or America will always show a white man. The opposite was true in Germany where posters depicting Jews were usually not of "white" people.

    The ME has their own version of the "white man keeping them down."
    I know that Lebanese are "White" and they are Arabs.
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It's a Soviet/Russian problem to be solved by them. I belive you are smart enough to have grasped my point.


    It seems there's a lot of "accidents of history" these days considering the degree of Muslim involvement everywhere. But, people deserve to be free? Does this extend to the Middle East too?
    It is an internal Russian matter, but there are two forces at work here.

    1. The Russians had a long history (~150 years) of being ruled by Muslims. this is something that still burns in their collective memory.

    2. The Muslim areas in the south believe that they have a right to independence, and in a manner, they DO have a point. Like the way the Chinese have treated Muslims in East Turkestan, the Russians have been less than magnanamous toward the Muslims in their south. At one time, it was understandable due to previous Muslim rule of much of Russia, but now from their authoritarian regime, it really isn't.
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Color is a very useful tool in the ME (and others).

    There are very light skinned and dark skinned Arabs. Some look white. The same is true for Jews in Israel who come in all colors. But propogandous posters regarding the evils of Israel or America will always show a white man. The opposite was true in Germany where posters depicting Jews were usually not of "white" people.

    The ME has their own version of the "white man keeping them down."
    The "dark skinned" Arabs is largely a legacy of the Slave Trade, which went on for nearly a thousand years with East Africa. Many of Qatar's best runners, for example, are descendants of African slaves sent to Arabia.
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    You must disdain teapartiers more than I thought. Seems like instead of people picking things they hate about the tea'rs ya guys instead pick anything you dont like and say, "Yep... Thats the tea party." Matching his sarcasm just to get your lil "Teabaggers are gay" jab in?



    Chris, i advise you read it again. "teabagees" are the mouth foamers who use the term "teabaggers".

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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Chris, i advise you read it again. "teabagees" are the mouth foamers who use the term "teabaggers".

    Interesting. Maybe even a lil funny after third thought.
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Yeah, because the Rashidun Caliphs were all selected by nepotism. What ignorance of history:
    Oh, c'mon. How stupid do you hope people are? At least try to make an argument for a change. The Rashidun was the early "Rightly Guided" caliphs and it's period spanned 30 years. I guess Islam's history is confined to the Rashidun, huh? The larger majority of future Caliphs that twisted out Islam just didn't exist?

    Rashidun, 632–661
    Umayyads, 7th–8th centuries
    Abbasids, 8th–13th centuries
    Fatimids, 10th-12th centuries
    Shadow Caliphate, 13th–16th centuries
    Ottomans, 16th-20th century

    And the closest thing to the Caliphate since the Turks (converts) did Islam a favor and abolished the Sultan is the House of Saud. This period of monarchy is all about the family.

    Still hoping others are ignorant of your religion, huh? When one has no argument to defend what he holds dear, one resorts to deceit. Be honest and embrace the truth for a change. Calling someone ignorant and backing it up with deceit and nonesense won't get you far. Maybe I just know more about your religion than you.
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    Re: Passenger tried to ignite shoe on United Airlines flight

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It is an internal Russian matter, but there are two forces at work here.

    1. The Russians had a long history (~150 years) of being ruled by Muslims. this is something that still burns in their collective memory.

    2. The Muslim areas in the south believe that they have a right to independence, and in a manner, they DO have a point. Like the way the Chinese have treated Muslims in East Turkestan, the Russians have been less than magnanamous toward the Muslims in their south. At one time, it was understandable due to previous Muslim rule of much of Russia, but now from their authoritarian regime, it really isn't.
    Russians have a long history of military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iran and they have a long history of oppressing Muslims in the Caucusus. Given how rough Muslims have had it under Russian thumbs you would think they would be the target of hate instead of America. But Qutb chose us didn't he?

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