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AP sources: FBI arrests man for threatening Pelosi

F107HyperSabr said:
True !! yet the predominate cases of lethal or deadly threatening whackism in the last few years has been from the extreme right. You can argue that the Code \Pink idiot women are more "lefter" than "righter' yet they have not been much more than Aholes on Parade
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I could careless what side they come from. All that leads to is one side saying to the other you guys have more crazies than us meaning you are worse than us. NO! You both have crazies and deal with them.
 
TurtleDude said:
true

Pros don't threaten, they just whack

amateurs talk and don't act
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Lee Harvey Oswald was an amateur, as was Sirhan Sirhan and almost every other assassin I can think of.
 
WillRockwell said:
Lee Harvey Oswald was an amateur, as was Sirhan Sirhan and almost every other assassin I can think of.
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you cannot think of the pros since they didn't get caught

name the guy who took out Jimmy Hoffa for example

and both those guys got caught

I know a SS S agent pretty well, he's in the same office complex area as me. He notes that its easy to stop amateurs who don't want to get caught

its hard to stop an amateur who doesn't mind dying-like Sirhan Sirhan or say Sara Jane Moore (lucky a marine was there to intervene) or John Hinkley

they can make it tough on a pro who doesn't want to be caught

it is impossible to stop a pro who is willing to die

and realize that is with the President-the best protected man in the world
 
soccerboy22 said:
I could careless what side they come from. All that leads to is one side saying to the other you guys have more crazies than us meaning you are worse than us. NO! You both have crazies and deal with them.
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I did say both sides have crazies it just ebbs and flows at certain times as to which side has more at any point in time. In the late fifties we had right wing whacks such as Birchites and I beleive Minutemen who claimed to be armed. By the late 1960's and the seventies the laft got crazier and whackeier and violent. Rember the Waethermen, the BLACK PANTHERS, THE PINK PANTHERS ( oh sorry that was a CARTOON) Lets look at the facts it's the right now that is whackier and more viiolent.


Just like there is coruption in both party committees. But let's face it it's the RNC who are now going to get whipped by Lesbian S&M artists.
 
TurtleDude said:
true

Pros don't threaten, they just whack

amateurs talk and don't act
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So, by your own criteria, what does that make you?

(We can only hope the FBI is listening in.)
 
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F107HyperSabr said:
What really bothers me is that these are not just one or two isolated whack jobs who just happened to do this type of thing once in a decade or two.

Ever since the so called PATRIOTS " of the Tea PARTY gang has declared it's faux "outrage" against the govenmrnt especially Democrats we have had an epidemic of deaths threats, Congressmen/Senators being called "niggers or baby killers' etc. It is not ust the TEA PARTIERS who have spawned this whack job behavior look at what that so called "news" network Faux News and slugs like Saun Vannity and Glenn Wreck has encouraged.

You can spew out just so many lies and out right hatred against a party, people, and the government before a bunch of idiots will commit a criminal act.

This has gne beyond stupid name calling by stupid people and we now have the spawn commtting crimes.
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This all reminds me of another time in recent history, when militias were on the rise and abortion doctors were killed and the Republicans were outraged that Democrats were in power. The 1990's after Clinton won the presidency.

This is worse.
 
Arch Enemy said:
аппаратчки? что зто?
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що це таке , саме це multiple apparachyks it should be written as "це те, що це апаратників " I was being lazy !

and oh yeh I don't know Russian either nor use it unless I am quoting.
 
Didn't take long for the guilt-by-association games to get started. :roll:
 
Coronado said:
Didn't take long for the guilt-by-association games to get started. :roll:
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I don't know about guilt by association, but the conservatives in this thread? They're guilty by their own words, it looks like to me. Truly astounding.

I am so surprised by the whackjobs right here in this forum that I really can't put your accusations against the liberals into context. We just had a veritable parade of conservative whackjobs of the highest order, and you, all you see is the liberals making people guilty by association. Interesting, to say the very least.
 
Dezaad said:
I don't know about guilt by association, but the conservatives in this thread? They're guilty by their own words, it looks like to me. Truly astounding.

I am so surprised by the whackjobs right here in this forum that I really can't put your accusations against the liberals into context. We just had a veritable parade of conservative whackjobs of the highest order, and you, all you see is the liberals making people guilty by association. Interesting, to say the very least.
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Entertaining red herring. Now would you like to address the point of my post, or are you going to wow us with more of your mind reading attempts?
 
Coronado said:
Didn't take long for the guilt-by-association games to get started. :roll:
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It's typical of both sides, Coronado. If this was a Republican who was threatened, many of the conservatives on the board would come out and say it was a liberal who did it, even in the absence of any evidence.

It's pretty stupid, actually. Those that do acts like this aren't real conservatives or liberals. They're just extremist nutjobs. Regular folk from both sides wouldn't want to associate with them, or claim them... though extremists would.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It's typical of both sides, Coronado. If this was a Republican who was threatened, many of the conservatives on the board would come out and say it was a liberal who did it, even in the absence of any evidence.

It's pretty stupid, actually. Those that do acts like this aren't real conservatives or liberals. They're just extremist nutjobs. Regular folk from both sides wouldn't want to associate with them, or claim them... though extremists would.
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I know, I just thought it was funny how quickly it happened. We should start a pool on how many posts a thread goes before some dumbass does it.
 
Coronado said:
I know, I just thought it was funny how quickly it happened. We should start a pool on how many posts a thread goes before some dumbass does it.
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I've seen it happen as quickly as the OP.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Fox News and the Tea Party gets an honorable mention for spewing bull**** that was destined to demand fear and anger from people too irrational to decrypt entertainment from fact.
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Huh? There's no mention of either in the article. Do you something relevant to add, or are you just making **** up?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It's typical of both sides, Coronado. If this was a Republican who was threatened, many of the conservatives on the board would come out and say it was a liberal who did it, even in the absence of any evidence.

It's pretty stupid, actually. Those that do acts like this aren't real conservatives or liberals. They're just extremist nutjobs. Regular folk from both sides wouldn't want to associate with them, or claim them... though extremists would.
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But extremist's ideology comes from right and left, like ELF. Of course liberals would never claim them, but their political bent comes from the left. The nut in the OP didn't like health care reform. Now from which side of the political spectrum would he most likely come from?

The thing is, to actively denounce them. I notice a reluctance in some quarters of the right, to do that. Why won't the Tea Party folks denounce the racists and loons that attend their events?

Even here, someone has posted they would like to see Pelosi returned to the "ecology". When folks from the conservative side of the spectrum won't denounce the loons, it leads us to believe they condone the behavior and thus are welcome in their ranks.
 
Gina said:
But extremist's ideology comes from right and left, like ELF. Of course liberals would never claim them, but their political bent comes from the left. The nut in the OP didn't like health care reform. Now from which side of the political spectrum would he most likely come from?

The thing is, to actively denounce them. I notice a reluctance in some quarters of the right, to do that. Why won't the Tea Party folks denounce the racists and loons that attend their events?

Even here, someone has posted they would like to see Pelosi returned to the "ecology". When folks from the conservative side of the spectrum won't denounce the loons, it leads us to believe they condone the behavior and thus are welcome in their ranks.
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You're missing the point, Gina. Extremists on either side of the spectrum don't denounce their own. Left or right, or any issue, when you see someone act in an extreme, or extremely partisan way, watch who supports them. They are the hacks. And when something non-partisan occurs, watch who turns it partisan. Those are the hacks. People who do not fall into the extreme category will denounce the extremists that adhere to their lean, but just because they don't DOESN'T mean they support them. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to give an idiot attention.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You're missing the point, Gina. Extremists on either side of the spectrum don't denounce their own. Left or right, or any issue, when you see someone act in an extreme, or extremely partisan way, watch who supports them. They are the hacks. And when something non-partisan occurs, watch who turns it partisan. Those are the hacks. People who do not fall into the extreme category will denounce the extremists that adhere to their lean, but just because they don't DOESN'T mean they support them. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to give an idiot attention.
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Given the negative attention that the Tea Party is getting from racists and other nutters attending their events, why wouldn't they simply denounce them? How does it make sense to stay quite?
 
Ikari said:
They're not people, they're politicians.
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That's an unfortunate comment, too.

Dehumanizing politicians doesn't advance the politics; it degrades it.
 
Chappy said:
That's an unfortunate comment, too.

Dehumanizing politicians doesn't advance the politics; it degrades it.
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That's an unfortunate comment too

Being unable to discern obvious sarcasm doesn't advance debate, it makes one look foolish.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
True !! yet the predominate cases of lethal or deadly threatening whackism in the last few years has been from the extreme right. You can argue that the Code \Pink idiot women are more "lefter" than "righter' yet they have not been much more than Aholes on Parade
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"predominate cases"

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I could make a few guesses but I prefer that you clarify.
 
Gina said:
Given the negative attention that the Tea Party is getting from racists and other nutters attending their events, why wouldn't they simply denounce them? How does it make sense to stay quite?
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You'd have to ask them. I can see the point of not wanting to give folks like this any more press than they are getting. I can also see the positives of public denouncement. It could go either way.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It's typical of both sides, Coronado. If this was a Republican who was threatened, many of the conservatives on the board would come out and say it was a liberal who did it, even in the absence of any evidence.

It's pretty stupid, actually. Those that do acts like this aren't real conservatives or liberals. They're just extremist nutjobs. Regular folk from both sides wouldn't want to associate with them, or claim them... though extremists would.
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Actually, there was another recent thread where there was evidence some extremists are embraced by the mainstream. Apparently there was a film about the possible assassination of GWB that was embraced by the mainstream left. I don't know if you consider President Obama to be "regular folk" but he has associated with people like Van Jones, Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. I've seen the same pattern with my friends and relatives who are liberals. They try to find the nutjobs on the far right in an effort to demonize every person and every policy which is right of center. It's the old guilt by association trick. You'd think that they might want to coverup the nutjobs on their own side, but far from it. Those people are their heroes.
 
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