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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    These teachers should be prosecuted.
    Why should the teachers be prosecuted for something the STATE requires them to teach?

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why should the teachers be prosecuted for something the STATE requires them to teach?
    Because prosecutors will go pretty far to increase the number in their win column.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The latest rightwing legal thought in action:

    DA to teachers: New sex ed course could get you arrested

    A district attorney in Juneau County, Wisconsin, warned teachers in a memo sent to schools that if they teach the new sexual education curriculum mandated under state law, they could be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a child.

    Because the law requires teachers to instruct children not only about contraceptives but about how to use them, Juneau County District Attorney Scott Southworth said, schools are forced to encourage students to "engage in sexual behavior, whether as a victim or an offender."

    And since minors can't legally have sex in Wisconsin, teachers would essentially be endorsing the behavior and could be held liable, Southworth said in the letter.

    DA to teachers: New sex ed course could get you arrested This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

    First off, as a parent, I cannot imagine what business the school system has in teaching my children about contraception options. As a responsible person that is MY job.. not the schools.

    Secondly... I don't understand why teachers would be seen as condoning sexual behavior if they follow the state mandate - they are doing what is required by law (even though as mentioned above, I believe it's up to parents to educate their children in this way). For crying all night.

    Why can't schools teach general biological changes that happen to all of us, and leave the real sex ed to the parents?? I have talked with both my kids at length about sex, what happens when you have sex, the emotional asepct of it, we've gone over birth control options, how a woman gets pregnant, what it means to be a parent, risks of STDs.. etc., etc., etc....

    I really don't believe sex ed in this fashion is really needed and why is the state mandating that this is required now??

    Christ. No wonder we are where we are.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    First off, as a parent, I cannot imagine what business the school system has in teaching my children about contraception options. As a responsible person that is MY job.. not the schools.
    While you personally may be a responsible parent, not every parent is responsible. What should we do for those children who don't have parents responsible enough to teach proper sex education to their children?

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    Secondly... I don't understand why teachers would be seen as condoning sexual behavior if they follow the state mandate - they are doing what is required by law (even though as mentioned above, I believe it's up to parents to educate their children in this way). For crying all night.
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    Why can't schools teach general biological changes that happen to all of us, and leave the real sex ed to the parents?? I have talked with both my kids at length about sex, what happens when you have sex, the emotional asepct of it, we've gone over birth control options, how a woman gets pregnant, what it means to be a parent, risks of STDs.. etc., etc., etc....
    As I understand it, schools do teach the biological aspect of sex. And there's a lot to sex that parents talk about, such as what you mentioned in the emotions of sex and birth control and pregnancy.

    But, like I said, there are other things that parents either don't feel comfortable about talking to their children about or things that could lead to harm if they experimented themselves without some kind of education.

    That's mostly my concern - that these teenagers may experiment on themselves or others sexually and cause harm to themselves, a partner, or both. There's a lot to sexual hygiene that teenagers may not recognize or realize if they aren't educated on the subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I really don't believe sex ed in this fashion is really needed and why is the state mandating that this is required now??
    To be fair, all the state is doing is teach kids how to use contraceptives. According to the article, all they're going to do is show how a condom is used, along with telling them how it's going to be used. I don't think that is that big of a deal.

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    A comprehensive sex education program has been found to be the most effective method in preventing teenage pregnancy and STD's. Absintence only has been found to be less effective than this, as has NO sex education. The latter disproves the point that it should be left to the parents, only. When it is, it is not effective, as some parents do not do an adequate job. This effects society in general, with an increase in teenage pregnancy, STD's, folks with lower incomes, and abortions. I can think of no evidence that would convince me that this is not the most effective method towards assisting young people. And the assumption that this endorses sexual behavior is ridiculous. It TEACHES sex education, it does not teach values.
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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Memo to DA allowing political pandering to hinder his ability to carry out justice: if the state mandates it, then you have no ability to charge a crime until the mandate is overturned.

    **** off.
    Southwirth needs to be disbarred and told to the shut the **** up.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    This also brings up another question: what would happen if parents tried to teach their children the things the DA say would endorse sex among teens, which is illegal? The DA isn't saying that the state shouldn't teach teens those aspects, but rather anyone who tries to teach teens those aspects. So if you read closely, the district attorney is also implying that even parents teaching their children how to use a condom is illegal and could lead to prosecution.

    So what do you parents think of that? This prosecutor isn't saying "Leave sex education to the parents," but rather, "Anybody who tries to give a teenager comprehensive sex education is breaking the law" and taking the decision out of the hands of parents.

    So, parents, I would think twice before supporting this district attorney who says he can prosecute anyone who teaches a teenager how to use a condom, because he's including parents in that group.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The state legislature did. It's a new law, not a regulation.
    If that is the case, the DA seems to have little ground to stand on.
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    Not creationism. Try to pay attention.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    While you personally may be a responsible parent, not every parent is responsible. What should we do for those children who don't have parents responsible enough to teach proper sex education to their children?





    As I understand it, schools do teach the biological aspect of sex. And there's a lot to sex that parents talk about, such as what you mentioned in the emotions of sex and birth control and pregnancy.

    But, like I said, there are other things that parents either don't feel comfortable about talking to their children about or things that could lead to harm if they experimented themselves without some kind of education.

    That's mostly my concern - that these teenagers may experiment on themselves or others sexually and cause harm to themselves, a partner, or both. There's a lot to sexual hygiene that teenagers may not recognize or realize if they aren't educated on the subject.



    To be fair, all the state is doing is teach kids how to use contraceptives. According to the article, all they're going to do is show how a condom is used, along with telling them how it's going to be used. I don't think that is that big of a deal.

    Thing is - I don't know how it is in other public schools, but the one where I work? There are irresponsible parents that probably would NOT speak with their children about these things.. however... these SAME parents are the same ones that won't sign the permission slip that allows their student to sit in on this human sexuality class.

    Do other public schools have something like this, where the parents/guardians have to sign a form allowing the school permission to allow their children to participate?

    Either way, irresponsible parenting runs rampant - in my experience this will ALWAYS be the case. My point is - how much parenting of these children do we do? How much are we responsible for?

    There are children that come to school dressed inappropriately. Do we clothe them?

    There are children that come to school and the only meals they receive are from the free/reduced breakfast and lunch program - but are we then responsible for feeding them dinner?

    I'm not trying to sound like a cold hearted bitch here.. but there are things that parents and parents alone should be responsible for, and teaching them about contraception is one of them.

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