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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

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    I've never considered the merits of a teenager's hairy snatch, as apparently you have by your quotes earlier.
    No I was just talking about hairy snatches in general.

    You're the one that brought up teenage vaginas.
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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Uh, no. First of all, there's no safe way to smoke. Smoking is not an inherent part of our biology. There is no hormonal drive to smoke. Smoking can never be taken part in with any measure of "protection" from the diseases it causes.

    This was a stupid comparison.



    Token minority? Either you were one of the chess club nerds who never had a girlfriend or you are intentionally blind to what teens really are like.
    Not chess, it was D&D,and later became world of warcraft...perhaps you've heard of that game? Anyway, as a freshman my girlfriend was a sophomore, we later were married for 10 years before divorcing, but that's another issue.

    I learned how much unwanted pregnancies can **** up a teen's life because I did it. I realize this must be hard for some to accept, but there are more options available then 'you either agree or you have no live experience'. Some of don't live through a cookie-cutter life.

    So sure, condoms can reduce the risk of pregnancy, just like filters can reduce the risk of lung cancer, which happens to be exactly why Marlboro Lights were my example instead of reds, cigars or pipe tobacco.
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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Thing is - I don't know how it is in other public schools, but the one where I work? There are irresponsible parents that probably would NOT speak with their children about these things.. however... these SAME parents are the same ones that won't sign the permission slip that allows their student to sit in on this human sexuality class.

    Do other public schools have something like this, where the parents/guardians have to sign a form allowing the school permission to allow their children to participate?

    Our school makes parents sign a permission slip and sets a time where parents came come in and watch the video they present to the kids and hear exactly what will be discussed...before it is presented to the kids.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not chess, it was D&D,and later became world of warcraft...perhaps you've heard of that game? Anyway, as a freshman my girlfriend was a sophomore, we later were married for 10 years before divorcing, but that's another issue.

    I learned how much unwanted pregnancies can **** up a teen's life because I did it. I realize this must be hard for some to accept, but there are more options available then 'you either agree or you have no live experience'. Some of don't live through a cookie-cutter life.

    So sure, condoms can reduce the risk of pregnancy, just like filters can reduce the risk of lung cancer, which happens to be exactly why Marlboro Lights were my example instead of reds, cigars or pipe tobacco.
    Oh so because you were dumb and got a girl pregnant, other kids shouldn't have reasonable sex education to help prevent your mistakes from happening to them.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    The best means of sex education in my mind is still abstinence focused education that informs about birth control.

    I won't use the absolutely idiotic rhetoric talking point of the "abstinence only" people. However, yes...if someone does not have sex they will not get pregnant and are far less likely to get an STD. There's no reason we should not have a focus in sex education about the risks, in a realistic and truthful display of them not some overblown propoganda, both physically and emotionally with regards to sex at young ages and outside of a committed relationship.

    However, recognizing that almost everyone in class will at some point have sex, even if its in a committed relationship, where it may be important to prevent pregnancy and possibly STD's it is also intelligent to teach them about condoms, or the pill, etc. Yes, how to properly put on a condom isn't something that should be stricken from such a discussion. There is a LONG berth between "When using these make sure you're rolling down the correct side" and "How to give a blow job 101". HUGELY different. The strawman of an "infection" is idiotic as well based simply on the huge disproportion of likely risk of that happening compared to applying a condom incorrectly.

    I firmly believe there are kids that, when having the risks clearly and realistically placed before them by adults in authority, will make a choice based on that information to abstain from sex while they're still rather young. All kids? No. A majority of kids? Probalby not. A decent portion? Yes, I think so.

    I also firmly believe that is abstinence is only a minor portion of the curriculum and focus that many of those kids that would've chosen to abstain will instead not, thinking its a condonable and perfectly safe thing if they just "do it safely".

    Finally, I also completely believe that there are kids that are going to have sex regardless. Sometimes they think they won't and then something happens, sometimes they're just not caring about authority, sometimes its not by choice at first and then it just becomes the norm, and I'm sure there's other reasons. To not give them education on the safety risks and how to minimize them would be a derelict of our duty to them and oes them a grave disservice.

    Finally, I think there's a group of kids that are going to go either way on the issue regardless of what kind of education that's there and will figure it out for themselves.

    In my honest opinion you discourage the most kids from having sex too early while giving the most kids the best chance of being the safest possible by having an honest and realistic abstinence focused program that educates about birth control and other ways to make it as safe as possible, physically and emotionally, once you have it.

    I think its ridiculous that they're attempting to arrest teachers for doing something the law is requiring them to do.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Our school makes parents sign a permission slip and sets a time where parents came come in and watch the video they present to the kids and hear exactly what will be discussed...before it is presented to the kids.
    Most schools have this.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Our school makes parents sign a permission slip and sets a time where parents came come in and watch the video they present to the kids and hear exactly what will be discussed...before it is presented to the kids.
    Which creates a whole different issue. Then you have kids escorted out of the classroom before the "movie" starts, then brought back in wondering what in the hell they missed.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Our school makes parents sign a permission slip and sets a time where parents came come in and watch the video they present to the kids and hear exactly what will be discussed...before it is presented to the kids.
    Which creates a whole different issue. Then you have kids escorted out of the classroom before the "movie" starts, then brought back in wondering what in the hell they missed.

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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And sex ed classes convince them that it's perfectly okay and natural, so as long as you have a box of condoms, **** to your heart's content.
    That's nothing but your own uninformed opinion. That's NOT what happens and is taught.
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    Re: DA: sex ed could get teachers arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That's nothing but your own uninformed opinion. That's NOT what happens and is taught.
    That's the underlying message, even if not intentional.

    "We know kids will be kids and we all do it, so here, use this and it'll all be okay."

    That's what the kids hear in their teenage minds.

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