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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    What about it?
    Also, what about the 5th Amendment?

    It says the government can't deprive someone of life, liberty or property without due process of law:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution]Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Also, what about the 5th Amendment?

    It says the government can't deprive someone of life, liberty or property without due process of law:

    Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The PATRIOT ACT denies a terrorist due process.
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Let's try that again, according to American law:

    1. Ascertain as to whether or not there is sufficient evidence to suspect someone in the comission of a crime
    2. Obtain arrest warrant
    3. Locate the citizen
    4. Attempt to arrest the citizen without bloodshed -- if he resists with lethal force, take care of business
    5. Take the citizen into custody
    6. Remand citizen and let the courts do their thing


    Ta da.
    That's certainly the better way, if one is living in lala-land and believes that US law enforcement bodies can operate freely in Yemen.
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    The PATRIOT ACT denies a terrorist due process.
    The PATRIOT Act is superseded by the Constitution, and thus the 5th Amendment.
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That's certainly the better way, if one is living in lala-land and believes that US law enforcement bodies can operate freely in Yemen.
    That's certainly the only way, if one is speaking of American authority.

    If American authorities can't operate freely in Yemen, they're out of luck.

    Legally speaking, of course.
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The PATRIOT Act is superseded by the Constitution, and thus the 5th Amendment.
    That's true.

    But that is not how it is used.
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Absolutely true. I'm just saying that means it's used illegally.
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    The PATRIOT ACT denies a terrorist due process.
    So we must read terrorist from other countries miranda rights and give them trials in NY but a citizen can be assassinated? It just seems that muslims from other countries have more rights here then we do according to Obama
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So we must read terrorist from other countries miranda rights and give them trials in NY but a citizen can be assassinated?
    I think he was just commenting on how it's being applied, not saying it was right and just.

    As he mentioned a few posts ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It just seems that muslims from other countries have more rights here then we do according to Obama
    It does seem a topsy-turvy way of dealing with a citizen perceived to be a threat to our security, don't it?
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    Re: U.S. Approves Targeted Killing of American Cleric

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think he was just commenting on how it's being applied, not saying it was right and just.

    As he mentioned a few posts ago.



    It does seem a topsy-turvy way of dealing with a citizen perceived to be a threat to our security, don't it?
    Obama is a hypocrite the way he treats enemy combatants from gitmo and then wants to assassinate a citizen

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