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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No... Congress is the appropriate pathway here.

    It's bad if you like to BitTorrent. Good thing there are options out there in internet providers. (My guess is that 95% of all BitTorrent traffic is illegal file trading.)
    I wouldn't worry about BTers. Most major programs do port randomization and encryption anyway, leaving packet patterns as the only identifier, but that's not a good detection mechanism.

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I would agree, if only cable companies could compete with one another in the same area. This is not the case now, though.
    AT and T and Timewarner compete here.

    And in north SA there is a third company.

    The problem is, and I understand the problem, if my Company "Vic's Telecom Inc" (VTI) laid down the infrastructure, the cables, routers and what not... letting another company use those resources it like... unacceptable.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ok, can some one answer some questions regarding this for me?

    1) Is this decision likely to be appealed?
    Most likely but I don't know for sure.

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    2) If the FCC lacks the authority, does Congress?
    Congress does have the authority through interstate commerce.
    That is following current legal beliefs.

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    3) What is the basis for the decision? I see no actual details on the logic.
    There are no laws saying that the FCC has the power to enforce net neutrality, so the court ruled in favor of the companies.

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    4) How soon does Comcast start blocking BitTorrent, and is this really bad?
    I doubt they will do that as Mega pointed out, it would be crazy difficult.
    If they did people would start using private p2p networks and darknet like networks.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ummm..pardon? I asked if congress had the authority, you say no, then say congress is the appropriate pathway. I assume one half of that is a goof, but not sure which.
    It looked like you asked if Congress lacked the authority. So I was saying no, they do not lack the authority:
    2) If the FCC lacks the authority, does Congress?
    As I understand it, Congress can go back and delegate additional authority to the FCC to regulate such things, but the FCC can't just go out there and assume authority on its own.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I wouldn't worry about BTers. Most major programs do port randomization and encryption anyway, leaving packet patterns as the only identifier, but that's not a good detection mechanism.
    Yeah, young techies are always going to be a step ahead!

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It looked like you asked if Congress lacked the authority. So I was saying no, they do not lack the authority:

    As I understand it, Congress can go back and delegate additional authority to the FCC to regulate such things, but the FCC can't just go out there and assume authority on its own.
    Yup, now that I read it again, the fault lies in my wording. Sorry about that.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm against Regulations as a general rule unless there is a need for them. In this case, the issue of right or wrong isn't really in play, it's "Do they have the authority to do this?" and the answer is no, they don't.

    I'm also against the FCC dictating how business run. If Comcast wants to play slowdown games, a competitor can come along and say "Hey, use us, we don't do that crap". IMHO that is the ideal solution to ISP's putting slowdown's on traffic.
    You have to remember Mr.V that a lot of those networks are heavily subsidized by us.
    Laying another set of lines for additional infrastructure would be insanely expensive and would require more subsidy from us.

    Then there is the monopoly imposed by cities and counties.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

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