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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    I thought you were in favor of less regulation?
    The internet simply isn't a typical market based commodity. Its more like vital infrastructure. You shouldn't have to worry about your ISP screwing with your internet connection any more than you should worry about your power company screwing with your electricity. I'd hope Mr. V could see the major differences between trying to regulate competitive free markets versus government subsidized local monopolies. Its perfectly consistent to recognize that regulation sometimes has its place and sometimes it doesn't.

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The internet simply isn't a typical market based commodity. Its more like vital infrastructure. You shouldn't have to worry about your ISP screwing with your internet connection any more than you should worry about your power company screwing with your electricity. I'd hope Mr. V could see the major differences between trying to regulate competitive free markets versus government subsidized local monopolies. Its perfectly consistent to recognize that regulation sometimes has its place and sometimes it doesn't.
    I'm against Regulations as a general rule unless there is a need for them. In this case, the issue of right or wrong isn't really in play, it's "Do they have the authority to do this?" and the answer is no, they don't.

    I'm also against the FCC dictating how business run. If Comcast wants to play slowdown games, a competitor can come along and say "Hey, use us, we don't do that crap". IMHO that is the ideal solution to ISP's putting slowdown's on traffic.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm against Regulations as a general rule unless there is a need for them. In this case, the issue of right or wrong isn't really in play, it's "Do they have the authority to do this?" and the answer is no, they don't.

    I'm also against the FCC dictating how business run. If Comcast wants to play slowdown games, a competitor can come along and say "Hey, use us, we don't do that crap". IMHO that is the ideal solution to ISP's putting slowdown's on traffic.
    I would agree, if only cable companies could compete with one another in the same area. This is not the case now, though.

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    I'm against Regulations as a general rule unless there is a need for them. In this case, the issue of right or wrong isn't really in play, it's "Do they have the authority to do this?" and the answer is no, they don't.
    We will see what the Supreme court has to say about that.


    I'm also against the FCC dictating how business run. If Comcast wants to play slowdown games, a competitor can come along and say "Hey, use us, we don't do that crap". IMHO that is the ideal solution to ISP's putting slowdown's on traffic.
    Except for many Americans, they don't have a competitor to go to. Or that competitor engages in the same BS. I wouldn't still be using Comcast after the stunt they pulled, except I don't any choice in the matter. The cost of laying multiple cables to a single persons house prevents real competition from being realistic.

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    2) If the FCC lacks the authority, does Congress?
    No... Congress is the appropriate pathway here.

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    4) How soon does Comcast start blocking BitTorrent, and is this really bad?
    It's bad if you like to BitTorrent. Good thing there are options out there in internet providers. (My guess is that 95% of all BitTorrent traffic is illegal file trading.)

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Taxpayers like me do, and thus we get pissed when Comcast thinks it can take our money to build a cable, sell us information over the cable we bought, and then decide to screw with our internet access that we are paying for, and finally be unable to switch to another ISP because they have a local monopoly.
    Where do you live that they have the monopoly?

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm against Regulations as a general rule unless there is a need for them. In this case, the issue of right or wrong isn't really in play, it's "Do they have the authority to do this?" and the answer is no, they don't.

    I'm also against the FCC dictating how business run. If Comcast wants to play slowdown games, a competitor can come along and say "Hey, use us, we don't do that crap". IMHO that is the ideal solution to ISP's putting slowdown's on traffic.
    I would agree with you IF most homes had multiple choices among broadband providers that would provide enough of a playing field for competition to happen. However, many do not.

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your reply suggests that you failed to understand Rathi's comment.
    I understood it just fine.

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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No... Congress is the appropriate pathway here.
    Ummm..pardon? I asked if congress had the authority, you say no, then say congress is the appropriate pathway. I assume one half of that is a goof, but not sure which.
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    Re: US court rules against FCC on `net neutrality'

    Where do you live that they have the monopoly?
    In my case, Comcast has only a de-facto monopoly, as no other company is willing to lay the damn cable into my part of neighborhood. I live in the bay area. However, in many parts of the country they have franchise agreements with cities for government backed monopolies.

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