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But at least he knows how to use paragraphs to make his writing readable.
If you can't attack the message, then attack the messenger.
But at least he knows how to use paragraphs to make his writing readable.
Oh good lord. That is such a stupid statement. Like our plans would have any bearing at all on what another country decides to do in a time of war. What the hell does it matter if our plans are public?
I'm so tired of these cowards.
That seems a bit far-fetched.
Anyone who doesn't have a nuke and would like to take advantage of the fact that we are troops are currently fighting two wars.Which enemy are you talking about?
Oh please, which enemy feels emboldened by Obama's statement,
Iran
and how is he restrained by anything he said?
Whatever one thinks of President Bush's policymaking, President Bush did no such thing. For a summary of the nuclear posture during his Presidency, one can go to:
Nuclear Posture Review [Excerpts]
Why? Do all the countries love the US?
Anyone who doesn't have a nuke and would like to take advantage of the fact that we are troops are currently fighting two wars.
Of course not. What's your point?
So, you think they will launch a devastating biological or chemical attack on the United States in the hope that Obama won't retaliate with nukes? Obama's been known to...go back on his word, if you catch my meaning...
He is not restrained by what he said, that is not the point. What he has done is to show Americas vulnerability.
A dog that rolls over on its back can still bite, but is nonetheless showing submission.
I wouldn't expect you to understand this,]
Why the insults right off the bat? some kind of debate strategy designed to weaken my argument by showing that only you can understand things?
[ but Obama demonstrated America's strength, not its vulnerability. He moved beyond the bellicose, meaningless threats of the Bush administration, which used movie dialogue and didn't back it up (dead or alive?). Bush's threats to use nuclear weapons placed an unnecessary and inappropriate fear over our international relations,]
ASSURE” —“U.S. nuclear forces will continue to provide assurance to security partners, particularly in the presence of known or suspected threats of nuclear, biological, or chemical attacks or in the event of surprising military developments. This assurance can serve to reduce the incentives for friendly countries to acquire nuclear weapons of their own to deter such threats and circumstances. Nuclear capabilities also assure the U.S. public that the United States will not be subject to coercion based on a false perception of U.S. weakness among potential adversaries. (p. 12)
Quote from the above referenced Nuclear Posture Review seem to give the lie to your claim that Bush threatened like a movie.
[which Obama has removed.
The circumstances that would lead us to use nuclear weapons are quite narrow, we will not use them to destroy large population centers. If there is a large military base set in a remote spot - perfect application. Nothing Obama said would limit his options, and he certainly would not be tied in a national emergency by his own words.
are you assuming that the world believes obama wouldn't defend our country by any means necessary? that's pretty damned funny.He is not restrained by what he said, that is not the point. What he has done is to show Americas vulnerability.
A dog that rolls over on its back can still bite, but is nonetheless showing submission.
"We wont nuke you if you use chemical/bio on us. Except if it's bad and we want to use nukes to retaliate."
NATO defense plans included first use of nuclear weapons against invading Soviet forces. America has always refused to commit to no first use until today. Barack Obama is once again changing the course of history and we are better for it.
We used overwhelming force on two cities in Japan in 1944. It remains the worst civilian casualty rates ever in history. Still, generations of the people deformed by radiation live in those cities.I do not think our president should be telling the world what will cause us to use our nukes.He might as well be saying if you do not cross this line we will not severely hurt you.It seems more like some dumbass idea that you are supposed to use equal force against the enemy. This idea that you are supposed to use equal force is a load hippy peace neck ***** retard crap and does not work in warfare, in war fare you are supposed to use overwhelming force against your enemy..
he's making us the world's doormat
ahmedinejad openly LOL's
netanyahu storms out
putin plays our putzy prez like a puppet
hu holds him in his hoary hand
kim sinks ships on the parallel
the cartels kill consulates in ciudad
and now obama has gotten himself involved in some pissy fight with his doped up partner in kabul while 100,000 us soldiers put their heroic alls on the line for us
White House hints Karzai visit could be in doubt
yesterday ahmedinejad, the scrawny guy in the bad suit who held our 52 for 444 days, called obama an "amateur"
men "bigger than you, more bullying than you, couldn't do a damn thing, let alone you," the skinny punk with the scrawny beard spit at our pie-eyed president
Iran ridicules Obama's "cowboy" nuclear strategy - Yahoo! News
"wait until your sweat dries and get some experience," don't just believe "any paper put in front of you"
dang, the skinny dude talks like our pissiest dpforums members
kinda personal, don'tcha think
Bush's threats to use nuclear weapons placed an unnecessary and inappropriate fear over our international relations, which Obama has removed.
We used overwhelming force on two cities in Japan in 1944. It remains the worst civilian casualty rates ever in history. Still, generations of the people deformed by radiation live in those cities.
We will never do that again.
That's what Obama is saying. Nothing more.
...to negate the Bush beligeranced of "we'll use 'em when we damn well feel like it"
We used overwhelming force on two cities in Japan in 1944. It remains the worst civilian casualty rates ever in history.
Still, generations of the people deformed by radiation live in those cities.
SO basically he said the nukes are nothing more than a bluff.We will never do that again.
That's what Obama is saying. Nothing more.
Name one example, post one link, where Bush threatened to use nuclear weapons.
You're an embarassment.
are you assuming that the world believes obama wouldn't defend our country by any means necessary? that's pretty damned funny.
Bush did threaten Iran with WWIII. Not an explicit "we will nuke you threat" but pretty close.