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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I support President Obama in his re-establishing American leadership in the world by clarifying our previously ambiguous policy regarding “first use” of nuclear weapons.
    I do not think our president should be telling the world what will cause us to use our nukes.He might as well be saying if you do not cross this line we will not severely hurt you.It seems more like some dumbass idea that you are supposed to use equal force against the enemy. This idea that you are supposed to use equal force is a load hippy peace neck pussy retard crap and does not work in warfare, in war fare you are supposed to use overwhelming force against your enemy..
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You don't make your nuke plans public.
    Oh good lord. That is such a stupid statement. Like our plans would have any bearing at all on what another country decides to do in a time of war. What the hell does it matter if our plans are public?

    I'm so tired of these cowards.
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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think our president should be telling the world what will cause us to use our nukes.He might as well be saying if you do not cross this line we will not severely hurt you.It seems more like some dumbass idea that you are supposed to use equal force against the enemy. This idea that you are supposed to use equal force is a load hippy peace neck pussy retard crap and does not work in warfare, in war fare you are supposed to use overwhelming force against your enemy..
    He's not limiting his options in the slightest, but you don't care...this is just another good excuse to unload your hatred. Have fun.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    NATO defense plans included first use of nuclear weapons against invading Soviet forces. America has always refused to commit to no first use until today. Barack Obama is once again changing the course of history and we are better for it.
    We're not better off for it and we're not worse off for it. The only reason Obama did this was so people like you would start threads about how great he is. If you think Obama's pronouncement changes our nuclear strategy in any material way, you are just gullible.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Bio weapons can kill millions or at least 10s of thousands and to tell a potential enemy your plans or intentions and is about as stupid as you can get.

    Obama is without any doubt the dumbest dumb ass in the history of the world.

    No one unless he is a total (expletive) fool signals that he will allow some devastating attacks on their Nation and not have the most serious response possibly in reserve.

    This is absolute proof Obama is either inviting an attack or welcoming one, and he has no concern for this Country or us as citizens what so ever.

    Is this idiot out of his (expletive) mind?

    He has taken the bluff possibility out of the equation. This is beyond Amateur to the point of being a really dumb ass but he invites an attack.

    Even the stupid people who worship this fool should be outraged by this.

    What is he up to?

    You never ever tell a potential enemy what you might do in response even in a school yard situation with a bully.
    It's just a stupid political move, nothing more. None of our enemies are changing their strategies because of Obama's domestic political BS.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    He's not limiting his options in the slightest,
    Apparently you must have read some other article or perhaps have a reading comprehension problem.

    Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms - NYTimes.com
    It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the cold war. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

    Those threats, Mr. Obama argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options,” a combination of old and new conventional weapons. “I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” he said in the interview in the Oval Office.


    but you don't care...this is just another good excuse to unload your hatred. Have fun.
    I have no hatred for the president.Grant it he is a liberal so the vast majority of things he does or wants to do I will be against. But I will support him on issues I support like more government transparency, cracking down on outsourcing of American jobs, requiring that steel used in federal tax payer funded road projects be American steel and many other issues I can actually agree with Obama on.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Apparently you must have read some other article or perhaps have a reading comprehension problem.

    Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms - NYTimes.com
    It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the cold war. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

    Those threats, Mr. Obama argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options,” a combination of old and new conventional weapons. “I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” he said in the interview in the Oval Office.



    I have no hatred for the president.Grant it he is a liberal so the vast majority of things he does or wants to do I will be against. But I will support him on issues I support like more government transparency, cracking down on outsourcing of American jobs, requiring that steel used in federal tax payer funded road projects be American steel and many other issues I can actually agree with Obama on.
    It's just politics. Obama wants to throw the hippies a bone so he makes some irrelevant policy change that amounts to nothing substantive.

    This is the same President who orders predator drone strikes on a daily basis, killing women and children in order to smoke terrorist leaders and operatives; he would have no issue sending a nuke up someone's ass for the right reasons; this policy changes nothing.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    It's just politics. Obama wants to throw the hippies a bone so he makes some irrelevant policy change that amounts to nothing substantive.

    This is the same President who orders predator drone strikes on a daily basis, killing women and children in order to smoke terrorist leaders and operatives; he would have no issue sending a nuke up someone's ass for the right reasons; this policy changes nothing.
    Regardless of whether or not he means it the enemy could still take that as an incentive to attack.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Regardless of whether or not he means it the enemy could still take that as an incentive to attack.
    That seems a bit far-fetched. Which enemy are you talking about?

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Regardless of whether or not he means it the enemy could still take that as an incentive to attack.
    Oh please, which enemy feels emboldened by Obama's statement, and how is he restrained by anything he said?

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