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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yeah, forgive me. I will just remember why the Daily Show was created and furthermore, why Jon Stewart does not want to be held accountable for making political debate in the media better (hint: it's because it's not his job. He's the class clown in the back of the classroom throwing spitballs and he prefers it that way).
    Okay, I see where you are coming from. Citing him is like citing Glenn Beck as they are both entertainers.

    I only cited him because he made sense to me. I have not the time nor the patience to listen to qualified defense experts.
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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Am I the only one who is confused why people are citing Jon Stewart for rebuttals regarding conservative outrage at the Obama's conception of nuclear theory and practice, when they are plenty of other, actually qualified defense policy experts ready to defend his actions?
    This sort of thing is right up Stewart's alley: pointing out absurdities in the system and political discourse. I'm not "citing" Stewart, because the information is all readily available to the public and isn't in question for those of us who live in reality. The Daily Show just presents it in an entertaining fashion.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Originally Posted by Mickey Shane
    We used overwhelming force on two cities in Japan in 1944. It remains the worst civilian casualty rates ever in history. Still, generations of the people deformed by radiation live in those cities.

    We will never do that again.

    That's what Obama is saying. Nothing more.
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    Nice understanding of history. LOL. Pathetic.
    No argument from you? Figures.

    Tell me where I am wrong, oh master of history.
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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    The EU and Russia are very please with Obams peace efforts, really!
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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Nuclear weapons are humanities greatest de-development. It's normal to fight its proliferation. Terrorist threats will never let us completely erradicate WMD's, which is a sad truth, but it is still no excuse to limit the use of nuclear weapons.
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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    it thats your opinon, Im off to Mars!
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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by The Carnage View Post
    Nuclear weapons are humanities greatest de-development. It's normal to fight its proliferation. Terrorist threats will never let us completely erradicate WMD's, which is a sad truth, but it is still no excuse to limit the use of nuclear weapons.
    The way I see it, if we get rid of these things, terrorists will have a much harder time gaining access to them. The fewer nukes in existence, the better. Plus, there's almost no circumstance in which we would retaliate with a nuclear weapon to a terrorist attack. Even if Al-Qaeda detonates a full-blown thermonuclear warhead and obliterates New York City... who do you retaliate against? Any target would be more or less arbitrary and only result in mass civilian casualties for the possibility of killing a few terrorists. If we did manage to find the people responsible, we have much more precise methods of getting rid of them.

    The only purpose a nuke has is to eliminate population and infrastructure on a large scale. The enemy we face now simply does not have either.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

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    it thats your opinon, Im off to Mars!
    You must be very drunk.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The way I see it, if we get rid of these things, terrorists will have a much harder time gaining access to them. The fewer nukes in existence, the better. Plus, there's almost no circumstance in which we would retaliate with a nuclear weapon to a terrorist attack. Even if Al-Qaeda detonates a full-blown thermonuclear warhead and obliterates New York City... who do you retaliate against? Any target would be more or less arbitrary and only result in mass civilian casualties for the possibility of killing a few terrorists. If we did manage to find the people responsible, we have much more precise methods of getting rid of them.

    Agreed

    The only purpose a nuke has is to eliminate population and infrastructure on a large scale. The enemy we face now simply does not have either.


    What about the enemy we will face in 50 or 70 years, will we not need nuks then?

    Is unclenching our fist working real well now? Sure, with countrys that are no threat anyway.

    Not doing a thing for the real threats, never has, never will. Its human nature, talking is not going to change that.

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    Re: Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    What about the enemy we will face in 50 or 70 years, will we not need nuks then?

    Is unclenching our fist working real well now? Sure, with countrys that are no threat anyway.

    Not doing a thing for the real threats, never has, never will. Its human nature, talking is not going to change that.
    If they don't have nukes we wont need nukes to defend ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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