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    Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    I guess this must mean that communist and liberals are a bunch of idiots(just kidding). Why do these idiots think they have a right to trespass onto someone else's property and demand that that the city provide them with housing? I think this story is proof that age does not make you wiser.


    Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex
    A group of homeless people and housing activists took over a privately owned Mission District duplex on Sunday in what served as the climax of a protest designed to promote use of San Francisco's vacant buildings as shelters for the needy.

    But the owner of the property - who was targeted over his eviction of a tenant - said the demonstration was nothing more than breaking and entering.

    "It's not actually vacant. I use it for my own personal uses," Ara Tehlirian of Daly City said in an interview, adding that he was in contact with the San Francisco Police Department. "I know nothing other than my property was apparently broken into."

    The takeover epitomized the tensions between property owners and tenant activists that have flared for decades in the city, and sometimes tip into outright hostilities near the peaks and troughs of the market cycle.

    This time, more than fifty people marched in the rain through the Mission District, hoisting picket signs that read "House keys not handcuffs" and chanting "Whose city? Our city." The action was organized by Homes Not Jails, a 20-year-old group affiliated with the San Francisco Tenants Union.

    By the time the tail of the procession reached the duplex on the 500 block of San Jose Street, at least eight people were inside, holding banners from second-story windows. It wasn't clear how they gained entry, and Ted Gullicksen, leader of the tenant organization, declined to provide details.

    More than a dozen police officers were on hand, most standing on the sidewalk on the other side of the street. Asked earlier whether they would take action if protesters occupied the property, officers declined to comment. One said, "We'll see."

    By 3 p.m., all had left but one, who stayed to ensure that "nobody is out of hand," said a police official, Sgt. William Escobar. No arrests had been made.

    Gullicksen said the protest carried important symbolism during a tough time for tenants.

    Because of housing speculation during the real estate boom, "a lot of tenants were evicted," Gullicksen said. "Now a lot of those homes are sitting empty. The city should be doing something to turn vacant buildings into affordable housing."

    Specifically, he said the city should foreclose on buildings where hefty back taxes are owed or use its powers of eminent domain to turn over long-vacant homes to nonprofit developers. The group is not advocating turning over the city's stock of new but unsold properties to the homeless.

    Jose Morales, 80, lived in the San Jose Street building for 43 years before he was forced to leave in 2008 through the Ellis Act, which allows property owners to get out of the rental business.

    Morales said he now lives in a small space in an office building in the Mission District.

    "The city should have protected me," he said. "It's like they don't see me. It's like I'm a ghost to them."
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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Why be shocked? The precedent has been set. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the not-too-distant past when Eminent Domain was declared for the purpose of seizing private property to build, of all things, a Wal-Mart. The ruling body of the land has already decreed - they don't give a damn about your "rights" of ownership. Why would these people?

    They're just acting off the same ignorant principle that nine unelected pseudo-intellectuals with black robes enforced.

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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Why be shocked? The precedent has been set. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the not-too-distant past when Eminent Domain was declared for the purpose of seizing private property to build, of all things, a Wal-Mart. The ruling body of the land has already decreed - they don't give a damn about your "rights" of ownership. Why would these people?

    They're just acting off the same ignorant principle that nine unelected pseudo-intellectuals with black robes enforced.
    Actually the supreme court ruled that Eminent Domain is a states rights issue. Stating it is up to the states to make decisions regarding eminent domain not the federal government.

    So blame your local state government for this not the supreme court
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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    People in San Francisco are, by and large, utter morons.

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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain
    Actually the supreme court ruled that Eminent Domain is a states rights issue. Stating it is up to the states to make decisions regarding eminent domain not the federal government.

    So blame your local state government for this not the supreme court
    While true, it's still wrong. A sin by omission is still a sin. As much as I am normally in favor of decentralizing power and letting states decide, this is still a bogus ruling. They just wanted to save face be deferring an important issue they should have tackled.

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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    People in San Francisco are, by and large, utter morons.
    Very rarely have I ever agreed more with a post on this site than I do with this one. I could have not said it better myself.
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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    While true, it's still wrong. A sin by omission is still a sin. As much as I am normally in favor of decentralizing power and letting states decide, this is still a bogus ruling. They just wanted to save face be deferring an important issue they should have tackled.
    It is not something they believe they have to power to tackle.

    If you feel that states rights are important, then this decision was a good one.
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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain
    It is not something they believe they have to power to tackle.

    If you feel that states rights are important, then this decision was a good one.
    With this era of judicial activism, there is no such thing as "not something they believe they have the power to tackle". In fact, the SCOTUS - in recent past - has really overstepped their boundaries with regards to legislating from the bench. Then in a case like this when they had the power to actually uphold the Constitution, they wimp out.

    States rights are important, but only when it's a greatly subjective issue. If it was abortion or gay rights, I have actually no problem with defederalizing power. In fact, I encourage it. However, when it comes to Constitution defense and protecting a landowner's God-given right to property ownership, they have to take the bull by the horns so states with hyper-partisan leanings can't enforce a "tyranny of the majority" at the expense of common sense and fair play.

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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    People in San Francisco are, by and large, utter morons.
    This is true. I found that they were, typically, space cadets with no concept of property ownership, law and order, or work ethic.

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    Re: Housing protest leads to takeover of duplex

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    This is true. I found that they were, typically, space cadets with no concept of property ownership, law and order, or work ethic.
    That was my experience working with them. Everyone had to be included so no one's feelings got hurt, consequently, nothing got done. I've never worked with a more cluster****ed group of people.

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