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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Notice the actual Latin text or an English translation of the document is not included with the article. It only includes his signature. Any possible reason for that?

    Also, if you read it, you will find that he WAS defrocked in 1987, though the circumstances behind that are not clear.

    Also, if you read the article, you will note that there is a lack of specific details about the case and it is clear that local diocesan officials already took him out of priestly duties that would have given him further access to children.

    So, once again, it seems like a big ado is being made of actually quite little.

    Since you like looking at one side of the story, here is the other side - -from the same article you linked:
    Any reason why the Church didn't turn this individual over to law enforcement for committing a criminal act?

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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    All we need is one district attorney to have the guts to charge him and his cronies under the RICO statute.
    Should US Swimming be charged under the RICO statue, or just the Church?
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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Richard Dawkins (whatever you think of him) has already set the process in motion in the UK to have him arrested on his next papal visit.

    Richard Dawkins calls for arrest of Pope Benedict XVI -Times Online
    Considering that he is a sitting Head of State, that is very risky legal ground and won't actually go anywhere.
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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Should US Swimming be charged under the RICO statue, or just the Church?
    Did the U.S. Swimming team collectively cover up child molestation?

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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Did the U.S. Swimming team collectively cover up child molestation?
    Apparently, yes, though more details will certainly be forthcoming.

    Also, the Church did NOT ignore the problem and some priests actually WERE reported to civil authorities and most were removed from ministries where they would have access to children.
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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Should US Swimming be charged under the RICO statue, or just the Church?
    If they can prove that there was a systemic problem with many coaches and superivsors knowing about it and helping the criminals avoid prosecution, yes.

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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    If they can prove that there was a systemic problem with many coaches and superivsors knowing about it and helping the criminals avoid prosecution, yes.
    But has there been any proof of a SYSTEMIC cover-up on the part of the Church. I have seen little more than local diocesan issues and letters potentially taken out of context.
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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But has there been any proof of a SYSTEMIC cover-up on the part of the Church. I have seen little more than local diocesan issues and letters potentially taken out of context.
    I am not talking about the Pope now. I am talking about what has happened in many places in the U.S.

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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Considering that he is a sitting Head of State, that is very risky legal ground and won't actually go anywhere.
    Ask Pinochet after his spell under house arrest in the UK. His pal PM Thatcher was livid, but she was impotent against the law. Why do you think Tzipi Livni has cancelled visits?
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    Re: Pope's preacher compares abuse row to anti-Semitism

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Apparently, yes, though more details will certainly be forthcoming.
    Then yes, they should

    Also, the Church did NOT ignore the problem
    I agree. They saw it as a public relations nightmare and covered it up.

    and some priests actually WERE reported to civil authorities and most were removed from ministries where they would have access to children.
    There are dozens of examples to the contrary.

    Proof?

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