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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Anyone know what this means?
    PERMANENT TERMINATION OF TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT OUTSIDE CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATIONS beginning with voiding of the Downes v. Bidwell monstrosity
    Working from memory, so allow for some fuzziness in the fine print please, territorial governments such as Puerto Rico have near Constitutional privileges and rights but are exempt from many requirements demanded of U.S. citizens.

    I'm not sure, but I think this provision on the list is probably objecting to U.S. territories being practically autonomous and being required to assume little or no responsibility while being able to demand certain benefits and protections from the USA. I think Downes v Bidwell was a court decision that pretty well affirmed that situation.
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well I've read what they say they are about and what they advocate on their own website with the link posted on this thread an hour or so ago.

    So who do you believe? A left leaning news organization who tends to label any activist group on the right as extreme? Or how the group describes itself?

    Again what makes this group 'extreme' any more than any activist group, left or right?
    Yes, I have looked at their own website:

    "ORDERS TO THE GOVERNORS AND THE MILITARY

    The Declaration is a mere one page, and has been written to stand alone among history’s milestones. It is followed by Warrants and Orders of the De jure Grand Juries, each meticulously planned to solve your problems and issues (travel, diplomatic status, foreclosure, taxes, unlawful prosecutions) through cooperation rather than resistance. We are mindful that initiating a financial crisis, violence, or banker’s retaliation could be fatal to the cause. So every step has been debated and crafted with outcome in mind.

    ADDITIONAL PHASES

    Phase 2 is waiting in the wings. Shortly after the Declaration is presented, the De jure Grand Juries will re-absorb USDC, the Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court into their de facto counterparts, the

    district court of the United States
    circuit court of the United States
    one supreme Court of the United States

    In subsequent phases, we will also be:

    - globally re-absorbing the corporate institutions into the de jure venue
    - re-absorbing de facto policy enforcement officers into the People’s service, in particular the U.S. Marshals Service
    - restoring the People’s wealth without triggering economic catastrophe.

    THE POWER AND DUTIES OF THE DE JURE GRAND JURIES

    As mentioned, re-inhabitation is self-actualizing. If needed, the De jure Grand Juries, as the one lawful authority on the land, operating IN the republics, protected by the Constitution for the United States of America, c. 1787, will commandeer those de facto institutions which fail to obey our lawful orders, remove corporate imposters, and lawfully appoint marshals to serve the district court of the United States and the De jure Grand Juries. Interestingly, Section 27 of the Judiciary Act of 1789 (Judiciary Act of 1789) does not provide for U.S. Marshals nor specify who is to appoint the district court marshals that are created by the Act.

    Members of the Guardians of the Free Republics may also be called upon from time to time to appear in sufficient numbers professionally to emphasize our authority as the supreme lawful de jure institutions on the land. It is inherent upon the sovereign People to finally accept responsibility to ensure the posterity."

    Guardians of the Free Republics

    When a group states they have no regard for the rule of law, I think it is prudent they be kept under investigation.
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When a group states they have no regard for the rule of law, I think it is prudent they be kept under investigation.
    You conveniently left out this claus also prominently posted on their website:
    And we will accomplish all of that – with your help – BEHIND THE SCENES, lawfully, peacefully, without violence and without risking civil war.
    That does not look to me like people who have no regard for the rule of law but who propose that they work to rescind or change bad law.

    So again, what is extreme about that?
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    This kinda looks like at least someone is taken this s*** serous.

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PuXimMLEEo"]YouTube- Alert!!! What is this?[/nomedia]
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    This kinda looks like at least someone is taken this s*** serous.

    YouTube- Alert!!! What is this?
    Well since March 29 has come and gone without any major news stories being generated, this lady doesn't show a great deal of credibility does she?
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    You conveniently left out this claus also prominently posted on their website:


    That does not look to me like people who have no regard for the rule of law but who propose that they work to rescind or change bad law.

    So again, what is extreme about that?
    According to the law in 1789? Riiiiight!
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well since March 29 has come and gone without any major news stories being generated, this lady doesn't show a great deal of credibility does she?
    So you didn't hear about the letters to the governors she talked about?
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So you didn't hear about the letters to the governors she talked about?
    Sure, I read about them in the opening post. And I also read the website of the organization that sent them out. And what this lady is saying simply doesn't jive with that.
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    You conveniently left out this claus also prominently posted on their website:


    That does not look to me like people who have no regard for the rule of law but who propose that they work to rescind or change bad law.

    So again, what is extreme about that?
    See below: How do you suppose they will appear in sufficient number to emphasize their authority?

    I thought the people would be in charge. Sounds like the Guardians plan on replacing the government with themselves. Doesn't it?



    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Members of the Guardians of the Free Republics may also be called upon from time to time to appear in sufficient numbers professionally to emphasize our authority as the supreme lawful de jure institutions on the land. It is inherent upon the sovereign People to finally accept responsibility to ensure the posterity."[/I]
    Guardians of the Free Republics

    When a group states they have no regard for the rule of law, I think it is prudent they be kept under investigation.
    Indeed!

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    This kinda looks like at least someone is taken this s*** serous.

    YouTube- Alert!!! What is this?
    Wow! Sure seems they are serious.

    They are replacing money and suggesting stocking up on water and food "in case of a disruption of services". Why would services be disrupted?
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    Re: Extremist group demands governors resign

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well since March 29 has come and gone without any major news stories being generated, this lady doesn't show a great deal of credibility does she?

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